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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    @Sloth, GJ specifically sifted that he watched ZDS, so he is almost assuredly a watcher, regardless of alignment.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from Umami »
    The real shocker here is that Tom, king of the RB hunt, isn't pressuring KJ into shooting the potential RB smh
    I think Tom is slightly broken.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from Rodemy »
    @shadow: why don’t we not and resolve sloth?
    Because if there is a roleblocker, it’s not him unless Umami is lying.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from Rodemy »
    kj stay on sloth
    Okay, I’ll amend, shooting Rod -or- DBS is fine.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Tom, get out of your tunnel. KJ is correct that you’re seeing everything he does as a reason for him to be scum, which is the definition of tunneling. You may have had last as town, but people were suggesting he be shot, saying otherwise is just untrue.

    @KJ: Kinda think you should shoot Rod, cause Umami is correct that if a scum top locker exists, he is a prime suspect.

    @Umami: If we don’t flip a roleblocker, you should consider tracking GJ. If we do, then great, track at will. The other option is to track me, and if I die, you can know at least that my target didn’t perform the kill.

    @GJ: if you’re town, I still think your best bet is to watch me. If I hit the roleblocker and not the killer, you’ll see who done it.

    I’m not going to claim my target ahead of time. I think it’s still probable that I die, but even more so if I give scum the answer to who should perform the kill.

    I...don’t actually think I can leave a useful legacy here because this game is a cluster that needs some mechanical solves.

    Things to note:
    -ZDS can only be scum with GJ, but doesn’t have to be (and /probably/ isn’t).
    -DBS having the public nature of her role doesn’t stop her from being scum, in fact, seeing her and KJ both having that same clause means it is probably 100% NAI.
    -Tubba’s Role could be a red herring, don’t get hung up by it. But, it might behoove people to ask the mod if his role would be seen by [generic tracking/watching roles].
    -Umami and GJ aren’t a dichotomy, and neither are DBS and KJ. However, if the next scum flip or two is low power, then the odds of all of those being town is drastically diminished. Role wise, it’s not like a watcher and a doc though, don’t let anyone lock in a world where either of those pairs gets chain lynched, remember that behavior does matter.

    I could probably throw out some more thoughts, and if I get time and think of some I will. But Jeez this twilight has been nuts.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    @Jack, enough with the pity party. If you’re town, interact within the PoE as much as you can; poke, prod, and generally create content. If you’re scum, do the same. As claimed, KJ can’t target you regardless, so it doesn’t matter. But really, no more self focused posting, it won’t help you, won’t endear you to anyone, and won’t help solve the game.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from ZeDorkSlipeur »
    KJ, if you can use your ability right now, use it on Sloth. Make yourself useful and prove your good will.
    I think KJ needs to check in first. But I think we need an unambiguous target he needs to go for.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from tomsloger »
    I mean KJ is now "most likely scum" but its not like we dont still need to resolve jack.
    I was just trying not to talk about it because ill end up bullying dawning (who is town and should quit mafia forever regardless of jacks alignment)
    Regardless of how you feel, this is still something you need to keep out of the thread.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Hi
    Is that really all you have to say for yourself?
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    @KJ, if you can use your ability, you had better check in here before you do.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    I don’t think last is outed scum. Still think he has high scum equity, but not because he didn’t see/pretended not to see that it was twilight.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    The worst part here is that this almost certainly means DBS is town, but is still lowest priority on the kill list.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    If I was to describe how jack looks exactly, it would be “scum that gave up, and was immediately yelled at in scum chat because a governor could exist”.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from shadowlancerx »
    Well great, now nothing jack says can actually be taken seriously until the flip. So we get 30 hours to just crap all.

    If this is real, it will be exactly as effective as when but did it in horsemen (that is to say not at all). And if it’s fake it’s dumb.
    Quote from shadowlancerx »
    Well great, now nothing jack says can actually be taken seriously until the flip. So we get 30 hours to just crap all.

    If this is real, it will be exactly as effective as when but did it in horsemen (that is to say not at all). And if it’s fake it’s dumb.
    This was me very unambiguously saying that Jack shouldn’t be pardoned. But frick all right?

    I'm legit mad as heck right now, Jack should not have been pardoned.

    @ZDS: I thought you were governor, so I wrong on that too.

    Basically whatever happens, Jack is the lynch tomorrow instead. (And absolutely should be, this is massive bullcrap)
    Wait. @KJ does your ability activate?
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Well great, now nothing jack says can actually be taken seriously until the flip. So we get 30 hours to just crap all.

    If this is real, it will be exactly as effective as when but did it in horsemen (that is to say not at all). And if it’s fake it’s dumb.
    Posted in: Mafia
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