"The unvote after Mind came in and said he [mind] was pursuing other options really doesn't feel like a town action"
EXCEPT I NEVER SAID I WAS PERSUING OTHER OPTIONS.
Tell me where i said that.
Please.
I'm waiting
vote shadow
Vote is not moving.
Got another game starting. This is my vite for the day.
The he above is in reference to mind. And considering he voted someone else, that seems like a different option being pursued. You're either not reading contextually, or just trying to find something stupid to put the wagon back on me.
As promised
Reads I have on my wagon:
I don't see a world where the entire scum team is on my wagon, I'd mayyyyybe believe two of them though. This leads me to believe that if anyone else on my wagon flips scum, we'd need to proceed with caution when looking to lynch anyone else here.
Rodemy: I've talked a little bit about my read on Rodemy, but it hasn't really changed. He has been gunning for a lynch, and not really showing that he actually cared who ate the rope. The unvote after Mind came in and said he was pursuing other options really doesn't feel like a town action.
Seppel: So I don't have the same play experience and thus feel for his meta that most of you do, but his posting this game has consisted of jumping in, stating someone as either town or scum, then jumping out. He has a few brief moments of concise analysis, but nothing here screams town or scum. He is truly null to me right now.
Dota: He doesn't actually have a whole lot of posts, but some of his logic just doesn't sit well with me. What stands out the most to me is tying Zomg and I together for pretty flimsy reasons. That is exactly the kind of logic that causes chain mislynches, no matter what alignment it comes from.
Zomg: While a lot of what he says is done is such a way that just seems on the scummy side, none of it is outside of his town range. I have mislynched him in every game we have completed together so far, and his behavior here doesn't seem different than those games. Misguided, but nothing here is truly outright scum telling to me.
Shock: His early posts come off as a little bit self conscious, not sure if that's truly alignment indicative. Then he takes a bit of pressure, lurks it off, then disappears while hunt and I have our back and forth. He doesn't appear until a decent bit after everything has settled, and comes in with a not well stated vote on me. If it isn't Rodemy, it's probably Shock, with an ever so slight chance of both, though I wasn't looking at interactions between the two all that much.
Tom: He only voted me for like a second, but I'll include him just to be thorough. Tom plays exactly the same in every game I've been in with him from a behavior standpoint. Sarcastic, quippy, and cagey. Seems like standard town!Tom behavior, though I can't say it's my favorite style from the perspective of actually trying to read him.
So that's where I'm at with my wagon, and I don't see a reason to move my vote.
Aww man! Well played D_V and Anak, you played me good.
In the end it all came down to whether it went the safe way or the crazy way and I thought it the safe way.
Apperantly I was so certain I also managed to convince Shadow of that, lol
Thanks Bur for the mentoring! Thanks Tom for modding!
Was very fun, specially that whole exchange with GJ in the middle of the game.
You did, which is a darn shame
You played amazingly for your first game. I wanted to say something all during the game, but I wanted you to genuinely believe me.
Thank you! I appreciate it.
About your little vote/unvote trick - I really didn't see the Unvote, and I really didn't care about the vote for Anak as much as I cared for how much I didn't agree with the content. I wonder what would have happen if there was no content attached and your just Voted/Unvoted.
Fair enough, I wish you'd made a snap "not hammering" post
Aww man! Well played D_V and Anak, you played me good.
In the end it all came down to whether it went the safe way or the crazy way and I thought it the safe way.
Apperantly I was so certain I also managed to convince Shadow of that, lol
Thanks Bur for the mentoring! Thanks Tom for modding!
Was very fun, specially that whole exchange with GJ in the middle of the game.
You did, which is a darn shame
You played amazingly for your first game. I wanted to say something all during the game, but I wanted you to genuinely believe me.
For clarity, do I have to unvote in a separate post for it to count?
Oh yeah.
I missed the unvote until I had already posted the scene.
It would be better to unvote in a separate post, but that's my bad.
Okay. It probably wouldn't have mattered so much if I had actually gotten on over the weekend, I came back to it and was stunned.
No worries though.
Zomg, for the record, I tried not to lynch you!
@GJ, honestly I feel like I've melded with you fairly well in the play we've had together, I truly hoped f3 would have been you/me/and Anak.
Totally locking me I'm as scum at eod 2 was unfortunate though
I didn't lock you per say. And I am surprised you didn't push my votes, because even as I was thinking you were scum, I was really questioning a lot of Anak's posts. Why didn't you try to use them? Might have gotten meteor to turn...
I got stuck on the mechanics of DV's gambit, and by the time I was off of that, I felt like whichever one of them was town was basically confbiasing me as scum for anything I said.
@GJ, honestly I feel like I've melded with you fairly well in the play we've had together, I truly hoped f3 would have been you/me/and Anak.
Totally locking me I'm as scum at eod 2 was unfortunate though
@GJ, seriously, you are hands down my favorite player to be in game with.
I did actually consider the frame question, which is why I asked. I hate that I was hating Anak's post a ton and didn't look harder at him. I did the same thing to Iso in AA, I have to stop caring about what scum may or may not do.
Meteor though, he was soooo pure man. That is so hard to fake, especially as a new player.
My very first game ever as Mafia (was on a different site) I rolled scum and faked pure to a perfect victory. I never took a vote past RVS, and my partner actually replaced out after one post, three days in. I don't ever clear people as new even if they seem perfect.
However, I should have just stuck to my guns with Anak, though I'm fairly certain I couldn't have swayed meteor.
The he above is in reference to mind. And considering he voted someone else, that seems like a different option being pursued. You're either not reading contextually, or just trying to find something stupid to put the wagon back on me.
Just cause you have a man crush on him doesn't mean he's town
Seriously though, I'd say stop being coy and tell me why, cause I'm really inclined to disagree with you.
Reads I have on my wagon:
I don't see a world where the entire scum team is on my wagon, I'd mayyyyybe believe two of them though. This leads me to believe that if anyone else on my wagon flips scum, we'd need to proceed with caution when looking to lynch anyone else here.
Rodemy: I've talked a little bit about my read on Rodemy, but it hasn't really changed. He has been gunning for a lynch, and not really showing that he actually cared who ate the rope. The unvote after Mind came in and said he was pursuing other options really doesn't feel like a town action.
Seppel: So I don't have the same play experience and thus feel for his meta that most of you do, but his posting this game has consisted of jumping in, stating someone as either town or scum, then jumping out. He has a few brief moments of concise analysis, but nothing here screams town or scum. He is truly null to me right now.
Dota: He doesn't actually have a whole lot of posts, but some of his logic just doesn't sit well with me. What stands out the most to me is tying Zomg and I together for pretty flimsy reasons. That is exactly the kind of logic that causes chain mislynches, no matter what alignment it comes from.
Zomg: While a lot of what he says is done is such a way that just seems on the scummy side, none of it is outside of his town range. I have mislynched him in every game we have completed together so far, and his behavior here doesn't seem different than those games. Misguided, but nothing here is truly outright scum telling to me.
Shock: His early posts come off as a little bit self conscious, not sure if that's truly alignment indicative. Then he takes a bit of pressure, lurks it off, then disappears while hunt and I have our back and forth. He doesn't appear until a decent bit after everything has settled, and comes in with a not well stated vote on me. If it isn't Rodemy, it's probably Shock, with an ever so slight chance of both, though I wasn't looking at interactions between the two all that much.
Tom: He only voted me for like a second, but I'll include him just to be thorough. Tom plays exactly the same in every game I've been in with him from a behavior standpoint. Sarcastic, quippy, and cagey. Seems like standard town!Tom behavior, though I can't say it's my favorite style from the perspective of actually trying to read him.
So that's where I'm at with my wagon, and I don't see a reason to move my vote.
Fair enough, I wish you'd made a snap "not hammering" post
You did, which is a darn shame
You played amazingly for your first game. I wanted to say something all during the game, but I wanted you to genuinely believe me.
Okay. It probably wouldn't have mattered so much if I had actually gotten on over the weekend, I came back to it and was stunned.
No worries though.
Zomg, for the record, I tried not to lynch you!
I got stuck on the mechanics of DV's gambit, and by the time I was off of that, I felt like whichever one of them was town was basically confbiasing me as scum for anything I said.
Totally locking me I'm as scum at eod 2 was unfortunate though
My very first game ever as Mafia (was on a different site) I rolled scum and faked pure to a perfect victory. I never took a vote past RVS, and my partner actually replaced out after one post, three days in. I don't ever clear people as new even if they seem perfect.
However, I should have just stuck to my guns with Anak, though I'm fairly certain I couldn't have swayed meteor.
Seriously guys, you framed the Godfather and I was the only one who actually believed it?