MTG Salvation

Quote from LogicX

Care to explain how you are not making a straw man or would you like to continue revealing yourself as an intellectual lightweight?

Quote from Vaclav

And that is the same slippery slope that led to things like a certain activity in 1940's Germany. Start killing or restricting the rights of groups because of activities and it generally snowballs. (i.e. Jewish treatment there initially started because of the actions of a few Jewish and Gypsy mentally ill, which were correlated to the Jews and Gypsies as a whole shortly after)

Treat people as you wish to be treated is a great mantra to go by to me - if I had made a mistake like that, I could understand being hurt for it - but I'd want help to prevent me from ever losing control like that again, not being murdered. And if I murdered someone in a flash of passion and rage after witnessing something terrible, I would expect to have to at the very least explain my actions in court before my peers before being let off the hook.

In fact isn't treat people as you wish to be treated part of some holy book or another? And of course Gahndi's great quote of "An Eye for an Eye leaves the whole world blind"

Quote from _

He's definitely right. Accusing the father of murder is NOT the same as defending the child molester. It is decisively a strawperson.

Quote from algebra

Would you press a button that would kill all the child molesters and child rapists is the world?

Quote from LogicX

A straw man is a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.[1][2]

I also am pro-choice, so not only do I apparently defend molestation, I want to eat babies too! /sarcasm

Quote from Quirkiness101

Raping a child probably summons more revulsion however than any other ordinary crime imaginable. Children are innocent, often helpless. The idea of a man abusing that helplessness and for his own pleasure inflicting willful trauma and shattering that innocence is for many people worse than murder. Now throw in the fact that many people here have children of their own, or know children very well. This sort of crime is easily related to by almost anyone, and those people know damn well they would not be thinking of abstract things like "the justice system" and "rights of the accused" if they witnessed the rape of their child. They would be thinking of how much pain they could inflict on the sick ****.