This set just feels like the MTG I remember from high school. It's creative, the cards do interesting things, there's lots of cool synergy, there's a great mix of competitive cards and casual fun cards. It's just really en pointe. I, for one, am finally going to enjoy the hell out of that casual wall ramp deck I've always wanted to build with Arcades.
I've been sporadically brewing bant, and hope this thread picks up some speed. The control list sure seems interesting, tho i like midrange more. Here is my current list, not smooth by any means but u get the idea. Any suggestions w'd be appreciated..
There is a very active thread here that focuses on Knightfall (and Bant Company), which is probably how I'd categorize your list. You'll get more feedback over there!
Yeah, I saw that deck this morning and got excited. It looks like a lot of fun to play. BBE into Obligator looks just brutal. BBE into Matter Reshaper feels pretty good, too. Fortunately, I'm on colorless Eldrazi right now, so it'll be an easy transition for me card-wise. I'll post it here for discussion.
Acknowledging flaws in the creation of a data sample doesn't mean you ignore the data. You just acknowledge that it isn't perfect and look for ways to improve it.
As for BBE...I hate jund. I get that the deck is expensive, but hell the idea that jund needs a boost because the format needs jund for some reason is so asinine to me. And yes, I'm going ahead and making the declaration that temur will be garbage and gruul zoo won't touch a four mana card.
To the second point, BBE was banned because of Jund, not because of its intrinsic power level. Most arguments about the unbanning of BBE include discussions of Jund because of this, not because Jund deserves to be a tier one deck or because Jund is the elusive hero the format needs right now. The fact remains that BBE is an underpowered card in relation to the rest of the ban list, so it should come off. Jund will see a bump because of this, but BBE shouldn't be unbanned for that specific purpose.
I am all for a BBE unban. It's a powerful card that enables some swingy and exciting moments; hail Mary BBEs into LotVs got me more than a handful of times. Jund will see an uptick in power, but the format isn't what it was back in the days of Jund dominance (and DRS is still banned). I think it'll settle nicely as a fair and consistent tier 1.5 deck.
Been testing a Rakdos list on Cockatrice, and I am impressed with the potential of the deck. I will say that it still seems a little inconsistent, but I think it's partly because I'm not experienced with the deck. How aggressively do you guys mulligan for a strong turn 1 play? I find that the power level of the deck drops by orders of magnitude when at least one Hollow One doesn't come down on turn 1 or turn 2.
There is a very active thread here that focuses on Knightfall (and Bant Company), which is probably how I'd categorize your list. You'll get more feedback over there!
4 Bloodbraid Elf
4 Eldrazi Obligator
2 Hazoret the Fervent
4 Matter Reshaper
4 Reality Smasher
4 Thought-Knot Seer
Sorcery (4)
4 Ancient Stirrings
Instant (4)
4 Lightning Bolt
Artifact (7)
3 Relic of Progenitus
4 Talisman of Impulse
4 Cavern of Souls
3 Copperline Gorge
4 Eldrazi Temple
1 Forest
4 Grove of the Burnwillows
4 Karplusan Forest
2 Mountain
1 Stomping Ground
1 Relic of Progenitus
2 Ancient Grudge
3 Blood Moon
2 Dismember
3 Engineered Explosives
2 Natural State
2 Pithing Needle
I'm not sold on Hazoret, but it seems like a decent core.
But demand is going to go way up, so I doubt it. I am thrilled about this, but I don't have a play set anymore. Afraid to look at the prices.
To the second point, BBE was banned because of Jund, not because of its intrinsic power level. Most arguments about the unbanning of BBE include discussions of Jund because of this, not because Jund deserves to be a tier one deck or because Jund is the elusive hero the format needs right now. The fact remains that BBE is an underpowered card in relation to the rest of the ban list, so it should come off. Jund will see a bump because of this, but BBE shouldn't be unbanned for that specific purpose.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptrix/21-23-point-decklists-2018-02-03
https://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptrix/day-1-metagame-breakdown-2018-02-02