MTG Salvation

Bruh. The introduction of formats was specifically to identify limitations on cards. I've been there when it used to be the Wild Wild West of cards. It wasn't very fun. Back then, they had this thing called ante, and it made playing a huge risk. Are you gonna walk away with less cards?

At no point has playing Magic been about who and what cards can be played, except around a kitchen table where it is a friendly gentleman's agreement about what can be brought. If you're looking for the kitchen table experience, Arena will never be it. I understand not liking playing against certain cards, but the majority are going to bring what wins. If you don't have an answer for those cards, then, yes, you're gonna lose and lose a lot. Arena forces you to be part of the meta, just like any other format.

At this point, after reading several of your threads, I think your expectations are way, way weird. Just accept that online magic isn't going to be your happy table experience where you can dictate what not to play against. I highly doubt wizards is going to change.

So, WPN just sent out their e-mail, announcing this set. Not a whole heck of a lot to add, other than the booster boxes will be 36 count, which makes it even more different than a Masters set. Might even keep the price around $3.99?

https://wpn.wizards.com/en/products/modern-horizons

I've never really understood the idea by getting an artist to sign it as "damaged." It's not like it fully kills the card to the point of structural integrity. Also, depending on the size of the signature, I would rate it as LP or MP. It's not worse than the marking from a GP draft most of the time. Personally, I love getting artist signatures and value cards with a signature moreso because of the work into getting them that way.


As for your situation, I'd have to say that you'd be in your rights to write a nicely worded e-mail letting them know that you did receive a card in a condition different than what you expected. Overall? I don't think it's a huge deal if the card is really in LP condition. And really, how often are you going to find a signed Beta card? I'd feel lucky, honestly.

Great tips, Stoogeslap. If you wanna go all in on the text box, choose lands. We know what they do. So should novices.

I've been playing with my kid since he was 8 (now 10). 2HG is often a great time for learning and bonding. A lot of players who play 2HG are more casual and are often willing to take the time to play with this. You'll have to build the two decks, so get quick at it. The good thing is you can tailor his deck to his play style. Definitely, if you know the people playing, they'll probably be decent. We love to teach new players and taking time during 2HG is perfect for it. I'd give it a shot. Battlebond looks like so much fun. Really, as long as he knows how the turn structure and casting spells works, he's easily able to play with you.

Yeah, I'm in. Can't pass up my Christmas tradition.

I totally got some scans....These are awesome, Grant1. Is there a specific reason there are 5 of the Islands, Swamps, and Mountains and only four of the Forest and Plains? I mean, it's totally cool either way! I'm hoping that I almost have enough cards to prepare


Also, Roon is just awesome!


Thank you for the Command Sphere, Bob the Funny!

I do! Also, I can be crafty. I should show my Xmas Exchange cards. They are below this post.

And Happy New Year!

Edit: My wife did the Curse of the Swine.

Well, I've been following this thread and want to put my two cents in.

I agree with everyone who says that if you have to be conned into having a child, don't have one. If you're not ready and do not want one, do not have one. Don't let anyone "convince" you to have one, as it will only lead to issues further down the line.

OP, no one is going to be able to convince you. There's no reason to. Your arguments are all quite valid to yourself, and that's all that matters. Only if you, and only you, can say to yourself, "I think the benefits of this situation outweigh the costs I've outlined," will you ever feel right about having kids. You shouldn't have to feel like you should have one, even if your wife does. I say this from firsthand experience.

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Just curious.

Any parents out there that regret being parents?

Let's keep that honesty thing going. For quite a long time, I did. I made the mistake of conceding to my wife that it was the right time to have a child. I didn't feel quite ready yet and told myself that I would be ready in the interceding 9 months. I was scared of being a father, having helped out exceedingly with my sister who is 12 years younger than myself. I hated the experience. I really quite hated kids as it was and didn't want one.

However, I knew my wife wanted a child. She felt ready and that it was the right time. I knew it would be a thorn in my side, so I acquiesced, hoping my feelings would get better. They never did. I hated all the time my wife was pregnant (a nasty side effect of having kids) and didn't really enjoy the birthing. It was stressful and awful. I felt a little happier with my child in my arms though.

Through some awful economic-based issues, I ended up being a stay-at-home father. I had to raise my son, not my wife like we had discussed. I hated it. I hated him. I couldn't stand him. I took care of him, but more like someone at a daycare would. He was fed, clothed, changed, entertained, but I did it out of duty, not out of love and caring. He was never abused, but I'm sure I could've been a more caring parent.

I completely and utterly regretted my decision to have a kid. I came very close to leaving him and my wife behind. I hated myself for letting her con me into having the child. I didn't want him and now I was taking care of him full time? Regrets. Always regrets.

But he slowly got older and became a little more self-sufficient. I could communicate with him and soon came to enjoy watching him learn and grow. He started spending some time at daycare, giving me the ability to have a break from him. Now, honestly, I'm glad I had him, because I enjoy many of the other feelings the other parents posting in this thread do. But, to be very honest, it took two or three years before I stopped regretting my decision to have him. Now, he's generally a source of pride and joy, but not all the time. And sometimes, during those times he's being a little ****, I still have those times where I wish it was just me and my wife.

TL;DR: I agreed to have a kid when I wasn't ready. I regretted that decision for a long time. I now enjoy my kid, but it just about cost me my relationship with my wife.

@Clan of the Year: Huzzah! Go us!

@Snow: WE STILL DON'T HAVE ANY!!! GRAAAAAAAAAR! This is my favorite time of year as we usually have around a foot or more of snow (it starts in late October), but it's been warm and clear for the last couple of weeks. I don't want to have a brown Christmas!

@Holiday Exchange: I sent out my cards to Galspanic yesterday. I'll post pictures here when they get received on the other end. Once again, my whole family participated and 13 cards were shipped out. 5 tokens by my 4 year old, 6 from me (including a recent cycle and a promo dressed up in holiday spirit), and 2 from my wife, using her customary favorite creature (a dragon!) and another promo.

@Kahedron: Huzzah! Glad you won.

@Digi: Congrats to you too!

@Stardust: Yay! Awesome sigs! Go you!

@Mafia: Why wasn't I invited? I'm still a member....:crying: Am I not cool enough to play a Crafters Mafia?

Listen, KupoKupo. I know things have probably been hard for you these past weeks. But everything's going to be okay.

They told the doctor he was insane, that the surgery was impossible, that he was a madman. You never knew that day when you walked into his office that he would be able to fix your minor neck pains for good by reattaching your head to the other side of your spine. But the Lord God guided his hands and miraculously you were reborn into a new form. Some call you an "Abomination," or a "Lovecraftian Horror," or "That freaky ass-head guy." I'm sure every day is suffering, thanks to how your digestive system works. But things get better.

Those of us that value your input and contribution to discourse on this site would like to thank you for continuing to be so brave. It's absurd to me that you can't add someone to your 'Friends' list and ask them to not play overpowered cards like... uh... Gemrazer. How could Wizards of the Coast have overlooked such a simple flaw in their system?

Anyways, please don't use the "R Word" because you really don't have to. If you change your post before the one remaining MTGS mod wakes up in the morning to skim things, maybe he won't infract you or ban you. We can't lose you! I miss KingPun and his posts so much, and he was banned just for being funny! Please slow your roll, KupoKupo.

Witch’s oven is OP?

People passed that **** over as chaff at first.


Stop being net-deckers. Look at every single card in standard and look at how new cards react to it. If you are net-decking people are already side boarding against you and you are already behind the curve. It is acceptable to start with a net decking base but by the time the list gets to you it has already been seen by your would be intelligent opponents and may not be built for your meta (server/LGS).


I’m only seeing one companion out there that should be cause for alarm if you aren’t running removal.
Mutate will only ever be up to decent because removal exists.


Also if you are so worried about that companion, the is the anti-companion/commander card in the same set. Drannith Magistrate.


This isn’t like the days of Urza’s Saga were you went in blind to a draft. We know the cards spoiled before they hit standard.
I know what to expect by analyzing all the cards but know what colors to lean towards by analyzing the commons.


You can’t tell me Gates and mono red burn aren’t viable. Know the meta, save your lunch money and only when you have triple checked your research, then get what you need ( which sounds like you need to get removal).


This is tough love.

They could print entire TOP 8 decklists as GOLD-bordered decks, as they did back in the days.

That would be by far the cheapest option of cards to get for anybody that doesnt want to downright print their own proxy cards.

To this day i play a lot of gold bordered cards that i only use in Commander decks anyway.


Secret Lair is by far the worst "innovation" they ever had and it undermines not only booster packs, but shifts all the expensive value into a "premium" product as well, which further makes Booster packs worse ... (and take note, booster packs get more expensive with time, but the content gets cheaper).

1. What rules are you talking about? Every format has rules. By this point every format should be the worst meaning no format is the worst. If you actually mean the politics and not some "rule" as you stated then this is present in any free for all multiplayer format and several not free for all multiplayer formats.

2. Some people are toxic. EDH usually has the friendliest communities you can foster. Making it so far the best format based on your criteria.

3. What does this even mean? Casual play is casual play. Formats are formats. You can play a format casually or competativly. The format is simply which version of magic you are playing.


Thank you for your 3 reasons why EDH is the best format available and how you are doing your best to keep it the best by staying away from it.

OMG! Every year I don't think my haul can get any better and yet it does! Mohawkdan sent six unbelievably altered cards that fit into 6 of my EDH decks perfectly! He also posted deck lists from the EDH decks he took them from as well as an explanation about the history of the deck and the altered card. My phone is not letting me post pictures right now so later tonight I will get to my laptop and put the pictures on here. Thank you very much Mohawkdan!

Well, you first need to break that old stereotype about MTG being a game exclusively played by hideous, virginal, antisocial nerds, which is both inaccurate and damaging. If your partner can't look beyond that, chances are they won't be able to reconcile with your hobby. I'd suggesting starting by stopping giving reference to that in your own point of view of the game, even if you use it jokingly.

And they won't go away if players tolerate or even encourage it. WotC wants you to settle. Don't apologize for them or look the other way.

I understand a limited amount of low power cards have to make it into a set, but if the set is catered towards power, ie Modern, then eliminate as much of the low end chaff you can and fill it with more playable "powerful" cards. And if you include the chaff, downgrade to uncommon or even common and it makes it more playable in other formats possibly. And don't upgrade certain commons to uncommons because of price, keep them at common. Nobody wants Future Sight Nether Spirit Reap the Past or Genesis at Rare in Modern constructed, nobody. And nobody was clamoring for upgraded to Uncommons Battle Screech Pillage Crypt Rats or the Cycle Lands in Modern constructed either. Draft drove these stupid upgrades and keeps 25 cent rare turds popping up like Dandelions. I don't want power creep through the roof but I don't want predictable draft chaff in Premium sets designed for Constructed either. WotC needs to do better, period.

Legions, if you don't mind the 2.2% chance of dying instantly.

*On Tyrant's Scorn's flavortext*

Long ago in a distant land, I, Nicol Bolas, the omnipotent master of darkness, unleashed an unspeakable evil. But, a foolish planeswalker warrior, wielding a magic sword, set forth to oppose me.

112.6m. An ability that modifies the rules for deck construction functions before the game begins. Such an ability modifies not just the Comprehensive Rules, but also the Magic: The Gathering Tournament Rules and any other documents that set the deck construction rules for a specific format. However, such an ability can't affect the format legality of a card, including whether it's banned or restricted. The current Magic: The Gathering Tournament Rules can be found at WPN.Wizards.com/en/resources/rules-documents.

Wizards must see the "one-of" rule as a deck construction rule rather than a matter of card legality. Though the tournament rules don't apply here, they show how Wizards seperates these:

6.1 Deck Construction Restrictions
Constructed decks must contain a minimum of sixty cards. There is no maximum deck size. If a player chooses to
use a sideboard, it may not contain more than fifteen cards.
Except for cards with the basic supertype or cards with text that specifies otherwise, a player’s combined deck and
sideboard may not contain more than four of any individual card, based on its English card title.
6.2 Card Legality
A card may only be used in a particular format if the card is from a set that is legal in that format or has the same
name as a card from a set that is legal in that format. Zendikar Expeditions and Masterpiece Series cards may only
be played in formats where the card is already legal.
Cards banned in a specific format may not be used in decks for that format. Cards restricted in a specific format
may only have one copy in a deck, including sideboard.

Rat Colony is legal in MTGA's Singleton event, so its ability modifies the deck construction rules to allow multiple copies of itself. The MTGA Singleton event has no stated restricted list, so that doesn't come into play.