The biggest contributor is that the various price-tracking threads for various sets were retired and the concept sent to the front page (which is now the Magic Market Index). Those threads were where most of the discussion happened. Now it's a new thread every week, and people probably don't realize that they're actual open threads, and can be commented upon. Personally, I lament the loss.
Of course, if you're talking about RL price spikes, that's a different story, and for me the story goes "Ugh, another card jumping for no reason except speculation." I got sick of saying it, so I stopped. I imagine that many others have a similar feeling.
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Jan 7, 20193
KnickM posted a message on Loss of words for price jumps or not worth reporting anymore?Posted in: Market Street Café -
Jan 4, 2019
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NierAutomata posted a message on Loss of words for price jumps or not worth reporting anymore?Ever since this site got bought out by curse, its been pretty much dead.Posted in: Market Street Café
The only areas that are still active look like the deckbuilder, rumors and mtg general.
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Nov 21, 2018
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TheMartianGeek posted a message on Full Gallery is upWell, that's 7 Masters sets and they still haven't reprinted Rings of Brighthearth. Boo. We also didn't get any of the Mirrodin swords, or a Mox (though that would probably have to be mythic) or Lotus. Also no Heroic Intervention, no Reflecting Pool, no Thrun, the Last Troll, no Balefire Liege, no Darksteel Plate, no Glimmervoid, no Asceticism, no Riku of Two Reflections, no Selvala, Heart of the Wilds, no Lighthouse Chronologist, no Baneslayer Angel, no Khalni Hydra, no Training Grounds, no Wurmcoil Engine, no Argothian Enchantress, no Master Transmuter, no Sakashima, no Tooth and Nail, no Waves of Aggression, no Paradox Engine...what we did get is a start, but didn't somebody say that with Masters on hiatus, they'd be doing reprints through a new and different avenue instead (in additional to putting them in Conspiracy, Battlebond, and Commander sets)? I hope we get some news about that soon.Posted in: The Rumor Mill -
Nov 7, 2018
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dietl posted a message on Ultimate Masters & Box Topper Promos + PSA regarding sealed Box Topper BoostersPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from ITRules »Just wanted to share this video about how the topper packs are searchable. Uploaded by a guy who was able to figure out how to do it. Caution for those buying overpriced topper packs on Ebay and the like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7gkq1LZ2FU&app=desktop
Wizards f***ed up again. This being so easily avoidable makes it even more frustrating. Seriously, how can this be an issue with a company having 25 years experience? -
Jul 30, 20181
krishnath posted a message on Leaked Announcement - New Masterpieces and Reserved List UpdatePosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Melkor »I will never understand PLAYERS who want to keep the Reserved List. Investors sure, but investors who don't play....hose them, by all means. the game doesn't need them. it's not about demanding things dirt cheap, it's about wanting access. Look at Imperial Recruiter, the original dropped what, $20? I don't need ABU duals, Power, etc. Would it be nice? sure! but if they were reprinted, if anything the originals would gain value because more people would come play Legacy if fetches and duals were about the same price, and some would want the classics. Look, Karn Liberated is the most expensive card i own, i have my Tron playset. I would LOVE to see him in Standard again. I would love to see KL as a $15 card, because not only could I get one more for EDH, but the 3 people at my LGS trying budget substitutes for him that leave them with no chance would be able to roll with me. I'd love to see the Elfball player be able to afford Karn, I love the Tron mirror, I'd love to see more people running it. I'm never selling my set, I don't CARE what TCG says it's worth, I pick up cards to play the game.
That would completely and utterly destroy the game. -
Jun 19, 20185
leslak posted a message on Mothership Spoilers 6-19 OmnisciencePosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from the n00b king »wow....m19 has a ton of great reprints. Best core set ever?
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Mar 6, 20188
Card Slinger J posted a message on Masters 25PURP (formerly known as MTG Purple) on YouTube had a theory that both Masters 25 and Iconic Masters were in development at the same time, and effectively it was one set as it was meant to be the 25th Anniversary set that WotC was working on. So apparently one of the higher ups decided, "Hey why don't we do two Masters sets instead of one to celebrate the 25th Anniversary of MTG?" as they ship 20 to 50,000 cases of these things out into the public as they're not very open about disclosing print run numbers.Posted in: The Rumor Mill
Effectively they wanted to double the number of booster boxes they were manufacturing, so why is this so important? Well in Iconic Masters, 15 out of 68 of the Rares and Mythics are above the $9.99 MSRP with it 7 out of the 15 Mythics and only 8 out of 53 of the Rares. That puts your odds at less than 22% of pulling a Rare or Mythic that's going to be worth more value than the actual booster pack. These are reprints which means that 78% of the time it'd had been better for the consumer to buy card singles because it's a lot cheaper than the price of the booster pack.
For example, there was a card reprinted in Masters 25 that's worth 12 cents as the Rare and you'd end up paying $10 for a 12 cent card. That's how bad Masters 25 is. Back in the day Commons were 25 cents, Uncommons were 50 cents, and Rares were a $1.00-$5.00 which was once the standard pricing for MTG cards until the Mythic rarity changed everything with the Reserve List and Power Nine being the main exception. The current prices are absurd when they upshifted it from Uncommon to Rare or Rare to Mythic which is something that WotC does to help stabilize the Secondary Market.
The fact of the matter is that you only have 15 cards in Iconic Masters that are above $9.99. This is really, really bad. This doesn't sell packs, you literally cannot sell this product for $250 which is why it's going on eBay for about $130-$145 where on Amazon it's about $149. There are only 15 cards above the standard MSRP price in Iconic Masters which is $3.99. So If you were to put it all together then you'd have 30 Rares and Mythics above $3.99 MSRP. It means that Iconic Masters would've been a fantastic Summer set printed on demand at $3.99 a pack like with Conspiracy: Take the Crown.
It's not because booster packs are $9.99 each making the set impossible to draft with and that's the problem. So now were going to move over to Masters 25 (a.k.a. Iconic Masters 2.0) where we have 18 out of 68 Rares and Mythics above $9.99 a booster pack with 7 out of 15 Mythics and 11 out of 53 Rares. So your odds right now on Pre-Order for Masters 25 are less than 26% of pulling a card that is worth more than $9.99 a booster pack. You can literally buy all these cards on the Secondary Market for less than the price of these booster packs, why wouldn't you since Masters 25 is Iconic Masters 2.0?
All these reprinted cards in Masters 25 are expected to drop below $9.99 because they don't see a whole lot of play, most of these cards above $20 don't see a lot of play and the only reason why they were so expensive like for example Rishadan Port should've been a $5 land because it was meant to be that Rare land printed into a Commander precon that nobody wanted like with Ash Barrens in Pauper. Rishadan Port's not that great of a card, the only reason why it's so expensive is because it's never been reprinted same with Imperial Recruiter.
Jace, the Mind Sculptor is only $127 because he was unbanned in Modern, it doesn't have as much to do with EV when it gives consumers a reason to buy booster packs. Pulling a foil Jace, the Mind Sculptor when you can actually use him in Modern is important for consumers, then again these Masters sets are effectively gambling. They're whale boxes as it's consumers who just want to gamble on the chance of pulling a Jace, the Mind Sculptor, Imperial Recruiter, Chalice of the Void, and/or Rishadan Port in foil when they're much better off buying them in card singles.
Now If Masters 25's EV had 18 out of 68 Rares and Mythics above $9.99 a booster pack with the odds of pulling 7 out of 15 Mythics and 11 out of 53 Rares being about 26% then the set actually would've sold which would put it on par with Modern Masters 2017 and Eternal Masters. Another thing that's holding Masters 25 back is the land cycle they chose being the Enemy Filters from Eventide which are pretty popular in Commander as they would've been better off reprinting the Allied/Enemy Fetches instead which would've been strong enough to hold their value.
So with Masters 25 you could've had 35 Rares and Mythics above $3.99 a booster pack which would've been a fantastic summer set printed on demand. MTG customers would've really liked the idea of every Rare and Mythic in a Masters set actually being worth more than the price of the booster pack. The main reason why it didn't happen with Masters 25 and Iconic Masters was because they were afraid of destroying the Secondary Market by being too conservative with their reprint choices. -
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matrix_lord posted a message on [SS1] .:. Signature Spellbook: Jace .:. Packaging and ContentsI actually love the art and frame. They could have gone with some better card picks though. Cryptic Command with a Jace art would have been incredible but even so looks like a cool product. I do have a problem with the RANDOM foil. This is a nightmare for collectors. Jace should have been the foil card in this and not let randomness slip into this product. Keep it for booster releasesPosted in: The Rumor Mill -
Mar 15, 20181
WarMachinePrime posted a message on Masters 25 boxes not properly randomized?Posted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Ryperior74 »Hold on
https://youtu.be/exLm-Sr8qH8
Congratulations you all earned the jump to conclusions reward it's not unrandom boxes all around
I knew you were all not being smart on realizing these were only the first two boxes
But this is still some unrandomness in these the foils are on the same boat too from the third video but overall it's not unrandom it's only plausiable you need like 20-30 boxes and see how many are the same to prove the unrandom theory right.
But again you all say the reprints are bad all because of that stupid 9.99 price tag on one pack just stick with singles it's better to get cards that way anyway
To play Devil's Advocate, it appears Rudy took 2 random boxes, not 2 boxes from the same case as I believe he did in the first video. (I could be mistaken.) To make this more "scientific" it would require that several cases be opened to see if how the distribution plays out. At this point we won't know until actual end buyers are buying cases and confirming what happens. But it DID happen. Whether it is the normal or exception to the rule I guess we will have to wait and see starting tomorrow.
I'll say this, I don't trust Wizards packaging/randomization process at this point. Whether or not I buy more or less product I guess we will see what I do. I won't be buying Massturds 25 right now and won't in the future unless it falls under a certain price point and I see that this collation glitch is just that a small sample. I'll let others take the risk at this time. -
Mar 14, 20185
Creedmoor posted a message on Masters 25 boxes not properly randomized?Posted in: The Rumor MillQuote from kjsharp »
Why? When has he manipulated box openings?Quote from Marquisd »Alpha Investments doesn't have the best reputation on these things. Would like a secondary confirmation.
I think people just don't like him. I dont know why. Personally I think he's entertaining and talks business pretty well. Whether or not you listen to his advice and think it works is up to the viewer. I don't think he's ever altered anything he opens though unless it's something he's trying to make fun of. - To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
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But this is the freaking Rumor Mill. If you are that offended then please step into a General thread or another website entirely.
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3 boxes broke:
Values with all cards $1 and above
Box 1- $102 (0 fetch-lands)
Box 2- $278 (3 fetch-lands)
Box 3- $84 (Scalding Tarn and next highest $ card was Path to Exile, lol)
Have a 4th box I'm going to draft heads-up with a friend. But ATM wishing I only bought a single box.
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Could not disagree more. Can't believe these aren't getting more attention. They both are incredibly powerful with useful spells that also get you another TUTORED FREE card of which might be the most powerful card in your deck (especially the Chandra). Those tutors are by far the most exciting cards spoiled in this thread. These days we usually get 4-5cc tutors and now we get free removal or ramp, yes, PLEASE.
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Bingo. Ranger's Guile has seen a ton of play and this card is even BETTER.
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It's funny. It took a good 8+ months before LotV become a Modern staple and LotV only saw play in Standard in Solar Flare until right before rotation. Everyone just assumes it was always a power house but even that card took many a while to realize it's power. We are still far from realizing exactly where this Liliana will end up in Modern and the fresher Standard rotations.
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If you want a ton more info (generalized and to the point) go check the most recent MTG Focus podcast where someone who was hit with a 3year ban tells you his side and then follows it all up with an interview with a WotC official.
It's really, really scary what WotC is doing. Basically, you CAN NOT post MTG cards that aren't already released in sets (yes, even no fake cards if they are anything close to resembling something that could be real) or risk ~3 YEAR bans. WotC want you to not only vet your sources of said image (no matter where you find it, facebook/twitter/instagram/etc.) BUT, you need to search the internet and research the info/image yourself to make sure it isn't a spoiler. And yeah, don't try posting it and then reporting it to WotC because you could easily still get hit with a 3year ban... *mind blown.
I thought we were in an age of getting rid of bullies? Because basically, WotC is bullying everyone and anything (especially a site like this) with huge bans for posting OR REPOSTING anything spoilish what-so-ever. Instead of taking responsibility themselves (for leaks), WotC is attempting to force anyone who wants to continue to play their game into being anti-spoiler backyard heroes. It's bullying at it's finest... and very naive in today's information age. I'm really surprised more peeps running this site haven't come out with statements.
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Yeah, I don't think I've EVER ordered sealed product from T&T... they always have insane shipping especially on Black Friday.