Niblis of Frost sure looks like the only somewhat competitive card from this batch. Lone Rider seems very narrow and 1/1 is so damn fragile if you can't meet the conditions to flip.
this dude is crazy.... specially if you can go transforming it over and over again.
interesting design.
Really?! +4/+4 or fight for 3RG?! It's ok but far, far from crazy. Huntmaster was a crazy card and that took months to get respect... this thing feels over-costed for competitive play.
Fine card, damn some of you guys must be miserable, ***** about almost every card. If this is the level of bulk then the set is doing something right.
This is a fine card to play with, however it has already had 8 printings, and multiple of those printings can already be purchased at stores for bulk prices. Opening a $10 booster and getting a $1 card isn't exactly enjoyable, that says nothing about the card itself however.
Not every card needs to be worth a billion dollars, but I would hope that if we're going to get a card that see's no tournament play, maybe we could get something else that has a bit less printings, even if that other card is also $1. This has been printed twice in the last 3 years.
You do realize opening a $4.29 pack and getting a $0.05 bulk rare is the same thing? Plus we'll likely get foils/etc. in EM.
This set isn't about "fewer printings"... it's about nostalgia and powerful cards. Disc is both.
The lawsuit has no merit in the court of common sense or law. If you don't know what the "Judge Program" constitutes then you never should have joined. Also, not sure if mentioned already here, but one of the interview questions to BECOME a Judge is your motivations and feelings towards "being paid"... they will cut you from the program right then and there if you are looking for compensation because that's obviously not what the VOLUNTEER Judge program is about or even how it functions.
This is a frivolous lawsuit through and through. Go talk to Judge Judy...
This is sorcery speed. This cost 3mana. This 2-for-1s yourself though some of that COULD be mitigated in the right circumstances like sacrificing extra lands.
It's fine, but nothing to really get exited about and many seem way too high on this.
convenient delirium enabler in limited.
Yeah, that's the best thing you could say about this, imo.
Yeah, okay, people are really missing what Sin Prodder actually does. The opponent can't "deny" you anything or affect what you draw. They can choose what Sin Prodder does *on top* of your draw - deal damage or yield *additional* cards. This means that each turn, the 3/2 menace creature that you paid 3 mana for gives you upside, either in the form of an extra burn spell that goes straight to the dome or an additional card. If you're playing a deck that actively wants to look for damage sources, Sin Prodder can *never* be bad.
You are missing what it does too :P. Well, you have some solid points EXCEPT it most certainly can blank. If you reveal a land then they take no damage and you don't draw a card.
I think she's much more a Delirium enabler. To use madness, you have to pay the mana to cast a creature AND the mana for madness... that's a lot of mana.
lol @ $17 Legion Loyalists. What a sad state the Magic secondary market has become.
What's sad about that? It's from one of the *****tier modern Legal sets, one that we all likely bought when it was in standard. It used to be worth $1 and now it's worth $17 after several years of post-standard in which we all had opportunities to buy it. You can still buy boxes of this set for like $60. This is why people buy magic - your worthless card is suddenly worth $17 because someone found a place for it.
And then suddenly at $17, everyones gotta have it and suddenly supply isn't enough. Oh well, should have gotten your copies earlier. We should still be glad that this can happen to post-INN set cards, and it's not just restricted to pre-INN sets.
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Um, it's like everyone forgot this spiked LAST YEAR when Piledriver for Modern was spoiled... it was bought out @ ~$1.50 then sold @ $10+ for a couple weeks on eBay (I personally sold playsets @ $35 a good 2-3 weeks after the spike). So yeah, there's definitely a precedent for this. The question is how popular the goblin deck is/becomes.
This card isn't good at all guys. 3U is way, way too expensive for a madness enabler... similar to how 3 creature cards was too expensive to make Skaab Ruinator do anything. Remember each "madness card" has a casting cost too though it's POSSIBLE there's a free madness card that could combo but at that point you are likely living in magical Christmas land as an entire deck synergy wouldn't be competitive.
Card had potential but epic fail final product by Wizards, imo. The activation should be at the very least 2U or UU.
There's never been a time in Magic that I've been more happy to have been buying quarter-a-pop cards from various sets for casual decks over the last decade.
Well, thats not true, this price insanity happened last Modern season, too.
Is this actual demand, or just speculator-driven scarcity? There are OODLES of Pain Lands floating around out there. It was reprinted a million times, and most recently in very recent sets!
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Like someone said above, OLD pain lands - Adarkar Wastes hasn't seen a reprinting since 10th edition which ways way, way before the huge player spikes from Innistrad/RtR/etc.
And yes, I'm not touching Cavern/Snapcaster/etc. until Eternal Masters is spoiled. Heck with WotC being pressured by Hasbro because the player base (revenue) didn't grow much last year, Conspiracy 2/etc. could also bring on many much needed Modern reprints.
Would anyone here seriously buy a City of Traitors at $175? It's been a $60 card for years and the announcement of a set is not going to change the real demand for it.
You could snipe City of Traitors on eBay all day for half that (~$30) for the last couple of years.
The answer is it depends on the demand for Legacy. IF the tournament scene picks up again after Eternal Masters, sure. But with the lack of Legacy support lately, it seems more likely that the spike will fade and most if not all of these cards will cool off quite a bit.
There's a new possible mythic/rare leak going around.
It shows the mythics as
SFM/Armageddon
JTMS/Force
Demonic Tutor/LotV
Chain Lightning/Sneak Attack
Abrupt Decay/Gaddock Teeg
Crucible of Worlds
Rishaden Port/Dark Depths
There is also a list of all the rares, which are very interesting. Could be a fake, but it seems like just enough chase cards and value to be true.
Chain Lightning?!?
I know they've done some questionable things in the past,
but I have my doubts even WotC would do something *that* boneheaded.
There's also no reason in the world to make Port Mythic when Wasteland is Rare.
Chain Lightning seems odd but believable.
Port @ Mythic and Wasteland @ Rare makes complete sense. Port was THE rare from Mercadian Masques and Wasteland is being bumped from an Uncommon. Sure from a playability aspect, it seems a little off. But Wizards has never been clear with their Mythic logic and history could play a huge roll for this set.
WotC has reached the over-reaching tip of the iceberg. We should have saw this coming with how they've dealt with spoilers lately. Heck, I'll be surprised if this site is still here next year being how loosely they gave out the 3year bans from Wastes/Kozilek. They are over-reaching in MTGO too for those that care about that product, lol.
I LOVE cards like this BUT the win-condition is beyond doable. They could have kept it at only needing 3 copies and it still wouldn't have been better than Laboratory Maniac in Legacy.
Really?! +4/+4 or fight for 3RG?! It's ok but far, far from crazy. Huntmaster was a crazy card and that took months to get respect... this thing feels over-costed for competitive play.
You do realize opening a $4.29 pack and getting a $0.05 bulk rare is the same thing? Plus we'll likely get foils/etc. in EM.
This set isn't about "fewer printings"... it's about nostalgia and powerful cards. Disc is both.
The lawsuit has no merit in the court of common sense or law. If you don't know what the "Judge Program" constitutes then you never should have joined. Also, not sure if mentioned already here, but one of the interview questions to BECOME a Judge is your motivations and feelings towards "being paid"... they will cut you from the program right then and there if you are looking for compensation because that's obviously not what the VOLUNTEER Judge program is about or even how it functions.
This is a frivolous lawsuit through and through. Go talk to Judge Judy...
It's fine, but nothing to really get exited about and many seem way too high on this.
Yeah, that's the best thing you could say about this, imo.
You are missing what it does too :P. Well, you have some solid points EXCEPT it most certainly can blank. If you reveal a land then they take no damage and you don't draw a card.
Good card, but that tracker is sweet too.
I think she's much more a Delirium enabler. To use madness, you have to pay the mana to cast a creature AND the mana for madness... that's a lot of mana.
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Um, it's like everyone forgot this spiked LAST YEAR when Piledriver for Modern was spoiled... it was bought out @ ~$1.50 then sold @ $10+ for a couple weeks on eBay (I personally sold playsets @ $35 a good 2-3 weeks after the spike). So yeah, there's definitely a precedent for this. The question is how popular the goblin deck is/becomes.
Card had potential but epic fail final product by Wizards, imo. The activation should be at the very least 2U or UU.
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Like someone said above, OLD pain lands - Adarkar Wastes hasn't seen a reprinting since 10th edition which ways way, way before the huge player spikes from Innistrad/RtR/etc.
And yes, I'm not touching Cavern/Snapcaster/etc. until Eternal Masters is spoiled. Heck with WotC being pressured by Hasbro because the player base (revenue) didn't grow much last year, Conspiracy 2/etc. could also bring on many much needed Modern reprints.
You could snipe City of Traitors on eBay all day for half that (~$30) for the last couple of years.
The answer is it depends on the demand for Legacy. IF the tournament scene picks up again after Eternal Masters, sure. But with the lack of Legacy support lately, it seems more likely that the spike will fade and most if not all of these cards will cool off quite a bit.
Chain Lightning seems odd but believable.
Port @ Mythic and Wasteland @ Rare makes complete sense. Port was THE rare from Mercadian Masques and Wasteland is being bumped from an Uncommon. Sure from a playability aspect, it seems a little off. But Wizards has never been clear with their Mythic logic and history could play a huge roll for this set.
Even Laboratory Maniac is easier to setup/go-off in Legacy.
I LOVE cards like this BUT the win-condition is beyond doable. They could have kept it at only needing 3 copies and it still wouldn't have been better than Laboratory Maniac in Legacy.