I was just curious .Are there any higher tier modern decks that run phyrexian obliterator? I am assuming the only lists are mono black? And if so why is the price so high?
I would like to put together a deck with this card. Hopefully something competitive .
So I am still fiddling around with this deck. I ended up taking out woodfall primus and adding in dorsan the falling leaf .I found that woodfall primus wasn't really doing all that much in the deck for its casting cost. The worst match up I'd against blue, counter heavy decks .I think dorsan will help protect against counter spells, is fairly cheap and can be recurred with meren if necessary
Thanks I am going to try out Wurmcoil Engine in Woodland Bellower's place. I think the life gain and the fact that it generates tokens will help give Meren additional experience counters.
I haven't had much practise using Sylvan Safekeeper yet, but I still feel as though she is better than the boots. This is because she only costs 1 green and can be brought back repeatedly by Meren.
Vampiric Rites has been great for saccing creatures when needed and for the extra card draw.
Thanks I appreciate you taking the time to look at my deck .I haven't tried using any of the alters yet .I have found that I have had enough other things in the deck to sac creatures too .However I am still open to giving them a try .Any idea what to cut for them?
Decided to put in Sylvan Safekeeper and take out Garruk Relentless, he wasn't doing enough it matches and the safekeeper will help keep Meren alive. Also not sold on the Woodland Bellower, I have had him in my hand a few times and never really thought it was appropriate to cast him. Will likely cut him for something else as well.
I have been putting together a Meren deck for the last week or two and have been looking through this thread as well as some others for ideas. I thought I would share the list I have come up with. I have been playing it on Cockatrice for the past week or so with some very good results.
My thoughts are they don't really fit in too well and there are much better options available .I will however be looking at adding in void winnower, sire of stagnation and the new ulamog .My deck list is slightly different than the one posted in the primer .I have more ways to make infinite mana and a few more win conditions .But for the most part it is the same .I will post my list when I get a chance .
Thanks for the info about blasting station, I think this would combo well with Teysa and Darkest Hour. But what should I take out to include it? I was also thinking of adding in the new planes walker, Ugin, The Spirit Dragon; any thoughts on that?
Just thought Id post an update seeing as how I haven't received much feed back. I have been playing this list on Cockatrice for the last few days with some pretty good results. Most of the games were multilayer (which is what the deck was designed for), but I have also played a few 1v1 games. For the most part I either get hated on pretty early, which I am usually able to deal with or just ignored until I lock up the board and win. Most of the games I have played have resulted in my opponents giving up out of frustration, rather than actually finishing the game. However I would still count this as a win.
Again, if anyone has any thing else to add or any other suggestions I would be happy to hear them. Overall this deck has been preforming pretty well for me so far.
A question regarding wrath of god. I have in play bitterblossom and 5 fairy tokens, as well as my commander Teysa, Orzhov Scion. My opponent plays wrath of god. Do my faries become 1/1 spirits. Via teysa's (Whenever another black creature you control is put into a graveyard from play, put a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying into play.) ability or do they all die?
Thanks I was on the fence about humility, the only thing is if I cast it all of my creatures that help with my stax lock end up losing their abilities. I also wasn't sure if a swarm of 1/1 creatures would be enough to win the game, especially in a multiplayer match.
I have put together a Teysa stax list and would like some feedback before I go out and purchase the cards. Please let me know what you think, and if you think anything should be added or removed. I am also trying to figure out exactly what my win condition would be other than the tokens. I believe I have enough cards to pull off some infinite mana combos, so I was thinking of adding in something like Exsanguinate. Or is there something else I should do?
I am still on the fence about Humility as I think it might harm my game plan as much as my opponents. I am also thinking of adding in Mind Slash to deal with more combo oriented decks.
I was just curious .Are there any higher tier modern decks that run phyrexian obliterator? I am assuming the only lists are mono black? And if so why is the price so high?
I would like to put together a deck with this card. Hopefully something competitive .
Thanks!
I haven't had much practise using Sylvan Safekeeper yet, but I still feel as though she is better than the boots. This is because she only costs 1 green and can be brought back repeatedly by Meren.
Vampiric Rites has been great for saccing creatures when needed and for the extra card draw.
Decided to put in Sylvan Safekeeper and take out Garruk Relentless, he wasn't doing enough it matches and the safekeeper will help keep Meren alive. Also not sold on the Woodland Bellower, I have had him in my hand a few times and never really thought it was appropriate to cast him. Will likely cut him for something else as well.
I have been putting together a Meren deck for the last week or two and have been looking through this thread as well as some others for ideas. I thought I would share the list I have come up with. I have been playing it on Cockatrice for the past week or so with some very good results.
1 Meren of Clan Nel Toth
Creatures:
1 Blood Artist
1 Eternal Witness
1 Liliana, Heretical Healer
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Oracle of Mul Daya
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Deathrite Shaman
1 Disciple of Bolas
1 Woodfall Primus
1 Sylvan Ranger
1 Spore Frog
1 Terastodon
1 Yavimaya Elder
1 Creakwood Liege
1 Avenger of Zendikar
1 Woodland Bellower
1 Fleshbag Marauder
1 Merciless Executioner
1 Elves of Deep Shadow
1 Llanowar Elves
1 Caustic Caterpillar
1 Shriekmaw
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
Enchantments:
1 Attrition
1 Grave Pact
1 Dictate of Erebos
1 Dark Prophecy
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Sylvan Library
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Survival of the Fittest
1 Pattern of Rebirth
1 Bitterblossom
1 Evolutionary Leap
1 Animate Dead
1 Necromancy
1 Awakening Zone
1 The Abyss
1 Diabolic Intent
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Vampiric Rites
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Regrowth
1 Buried Alive
1 Entomb
1 Damnation
1 Life from the Loam
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Putrefy
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Krosan Grip
1 Beast Within
1 Toxic Deluge
Artifacts:
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Skullclamp
Planes walkers:
1 Garruk, Apex Predator
1 Garruk Relentless
Land:
1 Woodland Cemetery
1 Bayou
1 Gilt-Leaf Palace
1 Golgari Rot Farm
1 Twilight Mire
1 Llanowar Wastes
1 Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers
1 Temple of Malady
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Maze of Ith
1 Verdant Catacombs
11 Swamp
10 Forest
1 Command Tower
1 Strip Mine
1 Reflecting Pool
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Dryad Arbor
1 High Market
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Mana Confluence
1 Homeward Path
Any advice would also be welcome. Most of the cards interact with the commander or each other in one fashion or another.
My thoughts are they don't really fit in too well and there are much better options available .I will however be looking at adding in void winnower, sire of stagnation and the new ulamog .My deck list is slightly different than the one posted in the primer .I have more ways to make infinite mana and a few more win conditions .But for the most part it is the same .I will post my list when I get a chance .
Again, if anyone has any thing else to add or any other suggestions I would be happy to hear them. Overall this deck has been preforming pretty well for me so far.
Thanks,
A question regarding wrath of god. I have in play bitterblossom and 5 fairy tokens, as well as my commander Teysa, Orzhov Scion. My opponent plays wrath of god. Do my faries become 1/1 spirits. Via teysa's (Whenever another black creature you control is put into a graveyard from play, put a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying into play.) ability or do they all die?
Thanks,
I have put together a Teysa stax list and would like some feedback before I go out and purchase the cards. Please let me know what you think, and if you think anything should be added or removed. I am also trying to figure out exactly what my win condition would be other than the tokens. I believe I have enough cards to pull off some infinite mana combos, so I was thinking of adding in something like Exsanguinate. Or is there something else I should do?
Thanks!
Teysa, Orzhov Scion
5 Swamps
1 Flagstones of Trokair
1 Trading Post
1 Isolated Chapel
1 Command Tower
1 Temple of the False God
1 High Market
1 Thespian Sage
1 Windswept Heath
1 Fetid Heath
1 Godless Shrine
1 Orzhov Basilica
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Marsh Flats
1 Scrubland
1 Strip Mine
1 Mistviel Plains
1 Secluded Steppe
1 Barren Moor
1 Kor Haven
1 Tectonic Edge
1 Dust Bowl
1 Rishadan Port
1 Vault of the Archangel
1 Springjack Pasture
1 Wasteland
1 Maze of Ith
1 Static Orb
1 Winter Orb
1 Smokestack
1 Aura of silence
1 Tangle wire
1 Crackdown
1 Kismet
1 Ghostly Prison
1 Sphere of Safety
1 Martyr's Bond
1 The Abyss
1 Grave Pact
1 Forcefield
1 Cataclysm
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Land Tax
1 Tithe
1 Gift of Estates
1 Sol Ring
1 Orzhov Signet
1 Orzhov Keyrune
1 Gilded Lotus
1 Worn Powerstone
1 Ashnod's Alter
1 Phyrexian Altar
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Dark Prophecy
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 SkullClamp
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Scroll Rack
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Diabolic Intent
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Luminarch Ascension
1 Mobilization
1 BitterBlossom
1 Elspeth Knight Errant
1 Elspeth Suns Champion
1 Sorin Lord of Innistrad
1 Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath
1 Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder
1 Serra Ascendant
1 Weathered Wayfarer
1 Grand Abolisher
1 Braids, Cabal Minion
1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 World Queller
1 Hokori, Dust Drinker
1 Graveborn Muse
1 Sun Titan
1 Containment Priest
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Academy Rector
1 Mentor of the Meek
1 Bloodghast
1 Graveborn Muse
1 Nether Traiter
1 Twilight Drover
1 Vindicate
1 Return to Dust
1 Darkest Hour
I am still on the fence about Humility as I think it might harm my game plan as much as my opponents. I am also thinking of adding in Mind Slash to deal with more combo oriented decks.
Cards under consideration:
I have a wasteland and a mana crypt in another deck which I am reluctant to take out and add but they are also options.