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  • posted a message on Congrats everybody! We got WoTC onboard with format-bypassing cards
    Quote from Onering »
    Personally, I'd much rather see this used in new "masters" sets that combine important reprints, new cards, and crucially for modern introducing certain older reprints into the format.

    If they put Force of Will or Wasteland into Modern, I'd play that format more.
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  • posted a message on WoTC English report without gender
    Thats why my standpoint would be to out of respect NOT use a preferred-pronounce.

    "It's respectful not to respect another's wishes"?

    If someone asks me to insult and single out them every time i see them, its not a sign of disrespect to not do that.


    So if I were to ask you which pronoun you wanted, have you tell me, then reply "sorry I think I'd be being disrespectful to call you that so I'm going to call you something else instead," would you agree or disagree that this would be respectful?
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  • posted a message on WoTC English report without gender
    Well you could have "he, she, it" and go with "it" as a neutral one, and that would work well.


    "It" is considered insulting and dehumanizing. That's also not the pronoun people ask for.

    The respectful thing to do is to use the pronoun people ask for. So when they ask for "they" that means you use "they," not "it." Equivocating between something people don't ask for and something people ask for is like saying "I don't see why this deck's land base can't just be 20 Wastes" when they're trying to get the right balance of certain colour sources.
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  • posted a message on Congrats everybody! We got WoTC onboard with format-bypassing cards
    I imagine we'll see more cards like Nexus of Fate or True-Name Nemesis in the future, then. The problem is that the relatively limited nature of the cards in question means increases to price are magnified compared to cards from a regular expansion. It's a move that's interesting from a purely game design standpoint but is ultimately harmful given how the Magic market works.

    I expect it's only a matter of time before "supplementary product" is the new "mythic rare" in terms of dumping grounds for cards that don't really deserve to be there other than not breaking Limited or stuffing the intended chase cards.
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  • posted a message on Worst deck, ever? lol
    Quote from misterpid »
    Clockwork Steed can't be blocked by artifact creatures. You use it on your opponent's creature.

    I'll give points for creativity but take away double the amount for the level of jank involved. It didn't even occur to me because just... why would you ever set out to do that?
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  • posted a message on Worst deck, ever? lol
    You need to read the card a little more closely. "Target nonartifact creature."

    There'd have to be a way to make the Steed not an artifact first.
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  • posted a message on Old player, need an update!
    You can also look up prices for various printings on a site like Scryfall or TCG Player, or just paste a list into SCG's deck builder if you just want to get through things quickly so you can identify what cards might have gone up in price since you played last. It's easier than laboriously, manually sorting through a whole bunch of chaff.
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  • posted a message on Old player, need an update!
    Fair enough. That's one of those things I don't really personally see as a point of confusion, but then again I've never intuitively thought an un-suspended creature should be able to swing right away (this ambiguity is why suspend grants haste, because playtesters would keep trying to attack the same turn), so I'm probably not the best representation of the average player.
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  • posted a message on WoTC English report without gender
    I would never do that, out of respect to the people.

    You are literally being the opposite of respectful. All you're really saying here is that since you personally don't like things such as the singular "they" (which, to be fair, has only been used by complete nobodies like Chaucer and Shakespeare) so you'll insist on what you think someone else's pronouns should be even when they specifically ask otherwise.

    WotC wants to ponder to that ideology

    ...

    I mean, they just decided to go with it, on cards they also use "they" instead of "he or she" wording.

    Blame the University of Chicago Press if you want to make an issue out of this. Wizards adheres to the Chicago Manual of Style and the reason they switched to "they" instead of "he or she" is because the style guide changed.

    Your feelings don't trump how language works. "They" is reentering the common vernacular and complaining about it just makes you look like those 19th century prescriptivists who said, "I don't care how people actually talk. My feelings about how people should talk are more important."
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  • posted a message on Old player, need an update!
    Also planeswalker don't suffer summoning sickness


    Sure they do. You can't just play Gideon Jura, animate him, and take a swing with him.

    Let's not muddy the waters with flavour discussion when doing so can easily lead to someone making gameplay errors.
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  • posted a message on WoTC English report without gender
    I don't really think that is that hard in English. You just have to avoid the 3rd person singular pronounces and you are done. Instead of he, she, it you simply describe that person: the champion or the runner-up or the contestant.

    It's worth pointing out that the singular "they" has been in use for centuries and has been used by such writers as Chaucer and Shakespeare. Opposition to it largely dates back to the 19th century with linguistic prescriptivists that wanted to impose arbitrary, Latin-like rules on the English language (such as by saying you shouldn't split infinitives in English solely because you can't split them in Latin—it was a very elitist approach to things). So when it comes to non-binary people or just people where gender isn't known or assumed, English has had the tools to handle those cases longer than Modern English has been a language.

    It's so messed up that, unlike how MTGS switched to the singular "they" instead of using "he or she" simply because I decided inclusivity was more important than linguistic prescriptivism back when I was Content Manager, Wizards only switched because the Chicago Manual of Style finally did. Make of this what you will.
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  • posted a message on Old player, need an update!
    Quote from Rezzahan »
    (There's also tribal, but that was simply a gimmick to allow creature types on noncreature cards; the card type doesn't appear on its own, only in conjunction with another card type.)


    But between cards like Bitterblossom and All is Dust you'll still see it pop up a fair bit here and there.

    The only really significant thing Tribal does from a player standpoint (since the average player doesn't care about needing Tribal to exist so Sorcery and Enchantment can have creature types) is pump Tarmogoyf though, which is largely outclassed by Gurmag Angler so it doesn't see nearly the play it used to.
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  • posted a message on No more MSRP
    Quote from k0no »
    This isn't a problem in my country, but in some US states WotC has come up against issues here, with inflexible gambling legislation that doesn't really account for games like MTG.

    Hot take: Magic cards shouldn't be excluded from gambling legislation. Drop some money, get a pack whose contents can have wildly varying values with some extremely expensive "jackpot" cards. Sounds like gambling to me, especially because unlike pure collectibles such as trading cards, Magic cards' monetary value tends to correlate strongly with in-game advantage.
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  • posted a message on No more MSRP
    Quote from user_938036 »
    While their specialty products have had low MSRPs that no one would ever be able to actually buy the product at, such as FTV being $35 but you could usually find it at $60+.


    The MSRP on those kinds of products isn't really meant to be followed, though. Both Wizards and LGSes know that specialty releases like FTV are just meant as giveaways to stores, barring some of the really godawful FTV releases they've had.

    The main fear currently is Amazon forcing through some kind of contract to buy significantly more product at significantly lower prices, which would allow them to undersell most other online sellers killing them.


    It'd be funny if this was a result of Amazon's 2016 acquisition of Curse, LLC (the company that owns this site, among others) by way of its Twitch ownership. The fact that Curse was unceremoniously dumped on Wikia, Inc should tell you how that one wound up going, but the corporate process is always slow and that'd make for a hilarious delayed effect.

    Or it could just be Amazon being the Walmart of the digital world (abuse the supply chain to keep costs low while pretending that you're doing good for consumers) and trying to set things up in a marketplace they probably don't understand very well. Either or.
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  • posted a message on Bought LP Beta, got a signed one.
    But, you were not buying a card that was signed and graded. You were buying a card at LP condition that did not mention it is signed. The card itself may very well be LP, but if it is signed, I think the vendor needs to notate that somehow.


    Ultimately it's just capitalistic market forces at work. Stores know that signed cards are harder to move normally than non-signed cards, so they'll slip in something like "non-NM/M cards include signed cards if we feel like it unless you specifically request otherwise" into their terms of service. It's a bad-faith move that gets the store a little bit of profit but I've seen enough desperate moves from stores to move stock (Tiny Leaders and Frontier weren't real formats, for example, just ways for stores to move old stock, which is why they died horribly after the stores got their sales in, on top of being *****ty formats) to know what's going on there.
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