Well, I'm going to go on a bend and say Inner Fire. By the time you cast it you';re only going to be either breaking even or only getting a net of 2 extra mana...
What's going to happen to this thread, since Wombat is suspended? No one will be able to update it unless someone decides to take control for the week/days that he's not available and give him the updated stats when he comes back...
First, I wasn't being sarcastic in the slightest. Any sarcasm you read into it was purely your own perception.
Second, circu's point was completely different than mine.
Third, my reasoning holds true for both examples I provided. Just because Char is almost identical to Psionic Blast doesn't mean the reasoning behind the costing does not apply.
It is not particularly uncommon for you to tell people they are wrong and then supoprt it with statements which are wrong such as: "If Death's Duet was a "double effect" of Raise Dead, wouldn't that make the cost be :1mana::symb:? or :symb::symb:?". And it's getting to be irritating.
#1: Yes, you were being sarcasting and rather condescending. IF you want people to take you seriously in a thread of debate then the onus is on you to make the debate friendly and factful. Most of your posts are not. I suggest that if you are going to counter a point to do so without relying on sarcasm and/or other facetious means to prove your point.
Second, while circu's point may have been different, the message was the same. He was explaining the concept of Urborg Uprising, much like you were. Albeit he chose another way to explain.
Third, a Doubling Effect usually involves the combination of two cards and their costs into one card. Absorb is a prime example of this. Same with Suffocating Blast. Each contain two separate costs (Counterspell and said spell. For the Blast it's a one-sided Bolt, the other is a healing salve) usually have their effects retroactively added, for the cost of "combining" the two effects. Would you pay :symb::symb: for a double Raise Dead with no drawbacks? Probably. I would.
If you want to talk about doubling the cost for the effect, take a look at Macabre Waltz as a prime example. In essence, it's two Raise Deads in one. But with the added "cost" of ditching a card, probably because it costs :1mana::symb:. You could easily cost that at :symb::symb: and erase the ditch a card to duplicate the effect. That is what I'm getting at.
If I came across as being a prick, my apologies, but my challenges are not going to stop. Not now not ever. So if you wish to have more bickering like this, I'll be more than happy to oblige
Let's continue with the thread, shall we?
'buster
P.S: props to circu for that I appreciate the minor vote of "confidence"
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Next category:
:3mana::symr:
Lots to choose from here...
Ambush
Antagonism
Brand of Ill-Omen
Chaos Moon (although I do believe it had great synergy with Despotic Scepter around that time)
Well, I'm going to go on a bend and say Inner Fire. By the time you cast it you';re only going to be either breaking even or only getting a net of 2 extra mana...
HM to Clash of Realities
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Copy Enchantment - 1
Ethereal Usher - 1
Induce Paranoia - 1
Remand - 1
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Next colour: Blue.
Copy Enchantment sounds like it's right from D&D and has a real fantasy feel to it. I'm voting for that.
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Just a thought.
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5 mana to kill enchantments and draw a card? At sorcery speed? Meh. Tranquil Path for me.
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Scavenging Scarab - 1
Descecration Elemental - 1
Ghosts of the Innocent - 2
Faith's Fetters - 2
Suppression Field - 2
Wow, nice to mix it up
I'll close this soon
#1: Yes, you were being sarcasting and rather condescending. IF you want people to take you seriously in a thread of debate then the onus is on you to make the debate friendly and factful. Most of your posts are not. I suggest that if you are going to counter a point to do so without relying on sarcasm and/or other facetious means to prove your point.
Second, while circu's point may have been different, the message was the same. He was explaining the concept of Urborg Uprising, much like you were. Albeit he chose another way to explain.
Third, a Doubling Effect usually involves the combination of two cards and their costs into one card. Absorb is a prime example of this. Same with Suffocating Blast. Each contain two separate costs (Counterspell and said spell. For the Blast it's a one-sided Bolt, the other is a healing salve) usually have their effects retroactively added, for the cost of "combining" the two effects. Would you pay :symb::symb: for a double Raise Dead with no drawbacks? Probably. I would.
If you want to talk about doubling the cost for the effect, take a look at Macabre Waltz as a prime example. In essence, it's two Raise Deads in one. But with the added "cost" of ditching a card, probably because it costs :1mana::symb:. You could easily cost that at :symb::symb: and erase the ditch a card to duplicate the effect. That is what I'm getting at.
If I came across as being a prick, my apologies, but my challenges are not going to stop. Not now not ever. So if you wish to have more bickering like this, I'll be more than happy to oblige
Let's continue with the thread, shall we?
'buster
P.S: props to circu for that I appreciate the minor vote of "confidence"
:3mana::symb:
My vote: Nameless Race with hm to Burden of Greed and something else.
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Wall of Vapor -2
Chameleon Spirit - 1
Suppression Field - 1
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But anyways...
Wall of Vapor -2
Chameleon Spirit - 1
Part the Veil - 1
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Yeah I got the point after circu explained it to me without sounding sarcastic. Thanks :smileup::rolleyes:
RApid Fire Wins!@#
:3mana::symu::
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