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HighHolder posted a message on [MKM] [CLU] The First Look at Murders at Karlov Manor — Weekly MTG previewsAgreed the basics are next level good. The eldraine ones were also incredible, LCI not so muchPosted in: The Rumor Mill -
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buffntuff posted a message on Card updates coming with ”Khans of Tarkir” on MTG Arena (these changes apply to paper)Posted in: The Rumor MillQuote from migrena »
nothing is stopping them from reprinting the same catd with different name since the original is not on rl in the first place. but i do not exactly follow the logic of why change affecting totem in totem armor would have any effect on totem in cursed totem. are they saying that the whole word has some unwanted conotations? if so why it does not the same treatmen as crusade?Quote from Flisch »Quote from Ryperior74 »Going a hair off subject
apparently some people may be jumping the gun on something
when They said changing “totem armor” to “umbra armor” did it involve removing/stop using the word “Totem” from cards names as well
apparently People think cursed totem is in a way being added to the persudo reserve list because the of the word “totem” in the card.
I mean, that's the logical conclusion, yes.
Hey I can answer this one. The word "totem" is an anglicized form of the Ojibwe word referring specifically to their belief in a sacred object/spirit that represents a specific tribe or lineage or so on. It's sort of a word that both means clan, and also the symbols of that clan, as they are basically one and the same. A totem pole is a physical representation thereof.
Early anthropologists (the super duper racist ones) flipped their lid about this ("Look! They have Heralds just like us normal humans!") and decided to use the phrase to describe a whole lot of broadly similar practices all around the world under the term "totemism." A good century of internal and external criticisms (the associations are flimsy and several generations of anthropologists have been complaining, plus other indigenous peoples objected to a word from a tribe halfway around the world being used to describe their beliefs. The Ojibwe aren't super stoked about it either.) has lead to a declining use of the term.
Just in general like a lot of these big broad words we use for generalized indigenous concepts are done in a way that flattens cultural distinctions. You say, "hey you here yanomami snuffing yakoana, you are the same as these here !Kung chewing a psychotropic root and running through a fire." Which, like, sure on a surface level is fine but referring to both of them as shaman (a Russian word originally used for Siberian indigenous healers) and referring to their beliefs as "shamanism" as a third party is what they call these days linguistic colonialism. The colonizing part really comes in when you start noticing that despite the traditions in, for instance, pentecostalism or catholicism being virtually the same (entheogens have always been a huge part of catholicism, for instance) those practices are considered "religious" and not "shamanic." We take for granted that our shamanism is a real and valid thing and the silly little practices of those barbaric savages is "the beginnings of civilized thought."
It's, uh, no mistake that all of these terms were invented in like British Empire/ French colonialism days. -
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buffntuff posted a message on Card updates coming with ”Khans of Tarkir” on MTG Arena (these changes apply to paper)Posted in: The Rumor Mill
I sure hope they don't start any wars over all that.Quote from pierrebai »Quote from ThyLordQ »Tribal as a term to collect every single creature of a type is sort of like saying "Well, they're both in the EU, so the people of France and Italy are the same."
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buffntuff posted a message on Card updates coming with ”Khans of Tarkir” on MTG Arena (these changes apply to paper)Posted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Kryptnyt »Quote from Caranthir »Or this kind person telling the "Latinx" (whatever that is), despite "not being one of them" why and how they shall be angry because of their "moment" being spoiled by "another big White dominated pop culture thing
Is Latinx just a way of saying "Latino or Latina or Latin-other?" To include all three in the same group. Traditionally you'd say Latinos to refer to everyone in the group, and that works, but some might reasonably accuse it of being sexist. Shrug
Yeah it's the same reason in english-speaking folks stopped using "Mankind" to refer to all humans, or defaulting to -man suffixes for jobs that are also done by women. Or avoiding using "He" as the default pronoun and instead using "he or she" or "his or her" which was the woke thing to do back in the 90s when magic came out and implied that women exist and might also play the card game.
And it's controversial for the same reasons by the same folks too.
I think the reason "Tribal" is a problem is a little more sinister than you guys describe. People speak of tribalism and culturalism as a reason for why racism is perpetuated and why different cultures don't integrate well into the American system. It's a good discourse to have because we need people to come together and stop hurting each other, but not everyone is ready to talk about it, and certainly not during a preferably politically agnostic/neutral game of magic.
I'm not sure it's about "integrating into the american system" as much as "the american system explicitly exists because europeans moved to this continent, where people were already living with their own various iroquois or seminole or cree or hopi or taino systems, forcibly displaced them, and then subjected their children to christian indoctrination and outlawed their language and cultures" sort of thing.
But aside from that americans also broadly believe that native americans are all roughly the same group of people and don't really recognize tribal differences and using the word tribe to describe all members of a certain group rather than, you know, a designated subset of those people united by tradition and/or lineage is just flatly the wrong use for the word. You could build a case for it being "all these folks are a subset of Creature" but that's kind of flimsy and just doesn't quite fit how we use the word tribe in english. -
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Ernart posted a message on Merging Planes? Return to Kaladesh? Return to Alara?Posted in: SpeculationQuote from Flamebuster »It's a possibility. (Yes I know I'm "necroing" a thread but there hasn't been much movement here so whatevs.) Rath merged into Dominaria. So nothing can be ruled out. Especially if they're metaphysically close to one another in the multiverse.
yeah,
Lately I was thinking
there are too many planes now and some aren't visited or probably just a story filter that will never be a independent set.
I hope some of those planes were merge and clash to the other planes were used to visit and return constantly to spice up things
Kamigawa change alot when MTG revisit it as a set. Same thing happened when MTG revisit Inistrad but with Zendikar's Eldrazi
That could work with other planes that would never ever be visited as an independent set. They could be used as a tool to spice up a usual story recurring plane
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ThyLordQ posted a message on Card updates coming with ”Khans of Tarkir” on MTG Arena (these changes apply to paper)Posted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Djau the Jackal »
I mean, the same thing happens in return with Western religious beliefs and mythology. I don't think its strictly just a Western thing. I'd argue that the presence of Angels in Ixalan recently was equally offensive if we take a similar approach. Aztecs don't have claim to Judeo-Christian mythology.
I will agree that it's not specifically a Western thing. But any group that has historically oppressed others, or taken efforts to eradicate someone else's culture and replace it with their own, should probably try their hardest to treat representation of that culture in their work with care.
Japanese media doesn't need to be super careful about their use of Christian iconography, for example (though there are still lines to not be crossed); but they should probably be careful about their depictions of Chinese and Korean people or aspects of their culture.
Your example doesn't quite work by that metric. However, it also doesn't work by a different metric. This set wasn't made by Aztecs. They're all dead, for one. But it also wasn't made by the modern Indigenous cultures. It was made by mostly white people, of a mostly Jewish or Christian background. It's Westerners adding their culture to media that is largely pulled from a different culture. One they're treating with, from my admittedly ignorant eyes, with some amount of respect. -
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ThyLordQ posted a message on Card updates coming with ”Khans of Tarkir” on MTG Arena (these changes apply to paper)Posted in: The Rumor MillQuote from foam_dome »
Exactly, words in different contexts mean different things. But the context here is "a group of Magic: The Gathering cards that mechanically care about a specific creature type". There isn't even an implication of painting indigenous real-world cultures in a negative light. So why are we erasing its usage in ANY context, just because it has ONE negative connotation?
Because it's a massive connotation. You'll notice I never said anything about indigenous people with relation to the word. I just said it has baggage.
It's also just, like, more correct to use a different word. Not politically correct, but actually correct. Tribal as a term to collect every single creature of a type is sort of like saying "Well, they're both in the EU, so the people of France and Italy are the same." -
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Kryptnyt posted a message on [LCI] Swashbuckler's Whip — Plenty of Games previewIt allows you to either whip someone or nay nay someonePosted in: The Rumor Mill -
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AJJ posted a message on [LCI] Swashbuckler's Whip — Plenty of Games previewI'm guessing it's an Indiana Jones reference.Posted in: The Rumor Mill -
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Faruel posted a message on [LCI] [LCC] [REX] Adventure At The Core — Debut show previews3 times that many creature tokens... ohhh my...Posted in: The Rumor Mill - To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
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*wrings brain in agony*
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FWIW I've been playing Magic since 4th Edition and I still suck. My game significantly improved around Throne of Eldraine when I made changes to my attitude and approach (learning how to play defensively versus mindless aggression), but tenure with the game does not equate to skill level.
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If ordinary beings can planeswalk akin to how Gerrard and his crew did during the Weatherlight saga then I'm all for it.
I just hope they don't put the power balance emphasis into the design of the planeswalkers in spite of the rest of the cards in the set.
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And that artwork for the Dr. Who cards...As we say here in Southern Ontario:
"WOWZA!"
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Magic: The Gathering
Deckmaster
A card game with five colours whose coloured dots are arranged in a pentagram-shaped layout.
What am I missing here?
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Given I worked 18 years in food retail, don't underestimate the ability of grocery stores to do product placements in counter-intuitive places. I've seen hand towels in the produce department among other things. It happens. *shrug*
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Don't forget about Scion of the Wild. Rare in Ravnica: City of Guilds and Tenth Edition, then common in Modern Masters 2015.
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New Capenna reminded me so much of the Batman cartoon from the late-80s/early-90s. That style just...ahhhh I can't explain it. The aesthetic...*chef's kiss*