Quote from zyrgul_CZ »what about body double as a 5cmc target? I'm still thinking about reveillark substitutes, because it does nothing when searched for, if I remember it right.
Quote from thErgonomic»Well that was a fun format. See you in 2019 when they finaly unban Pod, since as an unemployed I can't afford a new deck.
(Hint there has been only one format in past two years that I've been playing.)
Quote from ktkenshinx »
For mana, you really should be able to go UGw and keep a stable manabase. UGWR is definitely hard to support though.
Quote from SGears »What do you guys think of Eldritch Evolution? Do you believe that it can fit somehow in this variant? I'm currently testing and I'm unsure wether it can be useful or not.
Quote from ktkenshinx »I think this deck will actually be viable. Vannifar is Bolt-proof and, courtesy of Chord, produces a Twin-like effect on opponents who want to use their mana. This creates artificial tempo advantages which the Vannifar player can use to just create pressure. The basic Chord toolbox shell is also viable in itself (see Cragenwick decks most recently), which gives me further confidence in her success
Quote from SGears »As for names, I wouldn't get too cute with it. This deck will almost certainly be called Vannifar Pod if it makes it big, or something to that effect.
Quote from Kathal »Quote from thErgonomic »The meatball stays. That is non negotiable.
But that art is so ugly
Quote from thErgonomic »The meatball stays. That is non negotiable.
Quote from Kathal »
Running Ranger adds 2 cards (Ranger + Witch, you already have enough one drops so no need to add Teardrop Kami) for the possibility to basically always combo off, doesn't sound that bad to me tbh. Heck, Witch on it's own is decent enough, cause it can pump your attacking creature.
Quote from Kathal »Also, how much do you know about the current Modern meta? Cause it seems to me that you are basically stuck in the 2015 metagame, where things like Slaughter Games, Revoker and other (crappy) cards got played
Quote from Kathal »(just as a note, the Bant version of Kiki Chord is really good atm)
Quote from Lectrys »Quote from Kathal »Either way, where should the discussion about Vannifar.deck take place, here or in the Kiki-Chord thread? Have some thoughts and ideas and I do not want that a possible discussion get split up into two places.
Unfortunately, the OP maintainer for the current Kiki Chord thread, Ludafish, indeed posted that s/he will update with Vannifar lists, so chances are that discussion will get split. I initially posted a slightly older Vannifar list in the Kiki Chord thread, but I'll post an updated one here.
Quote from Kathal »Either way, where should the discussion about Vannifar.deck take place, here or in the Kiki-Chord thread? Have some thoughts and ideas and I do not want that a possible discussion get split up into two places.
Quote from Lectrys »
I'm not a great fan of Rhythm of the Wild in this deck, mainly because it's not a creature and it therefore cannot be tutored for, tapped for Convoke, or fed to Vannifar. Unlike Domri, Chaos Bringer, it cannot dig for threats (but, also unlike Domri 2.0, it can enable a Turn 3 Vannifar-fueled combo).
Unlike with the slower-to-assemble-combos Kiki Actual Pre-Ban Pod, I'm no longer convinced Murderous Redcap or Zealous Conscripts are necessary; while I may give Redcap a pass if you keep Rhythm of the Wild, Conscripts only enables 4-drop Persist and double 4-drop chains along with comboing with Kiki-Jiki and kidnapping the occasional hate permanent for a hefty 5 cmc. I ditched Conscripts and Redcap early into developing my heavy Vannifar build to enable cheaper chains instead, and I haven't wanted these guys back.
Quote from Lectrys »By the way, I'm female.