I passed this early last night, but now I've been mulling over its potential in GR beats with a couple Quarry Haulers.. they're only in one pack, but it seems reasonable to snag two. If the deck was largely 2-3 drops with a few combat tricks, I could a lot more potential in it than a deck that's hoping for things to line up naturally.
Take signets... should be obvious, but they go much later than they should.
Three-color really seems the best. There's so much fixing.
Don't be afraid to switch gears much later than you would in a non-Master set. I'm often switching as late as pack 2 and finding myself quite comfortable.
From my few games, it seems the format isn't very fast. You do have to have answers to fliers, and there can certainly be some busted turns, but it seems slow enough to support longer-term strategies. Two of my three matches went to time.
If I expected to get many more drafts under my belt, I would be interested in trying the Arachnus Spinner deck... I misread the card at first, not realizing its ability can be used by ANY spider. Arachnus Webs seem to go fairly late, and even its inability to stay on a 4+ power creature long doesn't matter too much, as they can be searched from your graveyard. 6 mana is not backbreaking at all for a 5/7 reacher.
Hey, all!
I wanted to get a little bare-bones assessment of MM17 out today, as I know many of us will be jumping on one of very few attempts to draft it tomorrow. Unfortunately, I ran out of time to complete it, so what follow is a very partial review of the spoiled "set" and what I expect to see in the draft format. Please add as much as you like, and I'll try to finish it up tonight, possibly in editing.
Modern Masters 2017 Draft Preview
As with all high-powered draft formats (Cube, Master Sets,) synergy is much, much more important than just having pile.dek. The goals of the allied color pairs and shards are as follows (as near as I can tell.)
UW Blink
Focused on support like Momentary Blink and Ghostly Flicker, this color pair wants ETB value. Along with some tokenmakers, there are valuecreatures for general tempo plays. Try to prioritize white token-generators-on-a-stick (i.e., Splicers) above blue ones, as white's other major archetype will be fighting you for them pretty hard.
UB Control/Graveyard
This pair was a little harder for me to evaluate, as nothing jumped out as being broken for the pair. There are ways to get cards into your graveyard in the pair, but only black has Unearth creatures to take advantage of it; while blue does have a fewcards with flashback, they're not exactly backbreaking in Limited (or cheap.) Still, the value of holding both a Grisly Spectacle and a Spire Monitor is up there. It seems to really open up with a splash of White, allowing flashback on Unburial Rites, and the out-of-hand casting of Lingering Souls. I expect UB to be more straight-forward; fliers, control (there are many black discard spells) and hopefully a wall or two. Also worth noting, Dinrova Horrors love Ghostly Flicker the most, so if you think you're UB, pick up a flicker and try to wheel a Horror or two (also, UB might be a fine audible if white seems to dry up for this reason.)
BR Sacrifice Traitorous Instinct is a common, as is Vampire Aristocrat. Nuff said? No, of course not, this is a Master Set! There's also plenty of Unearth, and you may even be able to steal a game or two from an opponent unused to staring at your unearth cards in your GY. Falkenrath Noble is a juicy little drainer, too. Grab a sac outlet or two, then go to town on Dragon Fodder and Kathari Bomber. Sacrifice outlets first! There are plenty of dorks to sac, and plenty of payoffs, but if you lack any efficient sac outlets, your deck is going bust.
RG Tokens
One of two token archetypes (three, is you count combining them,) RG wants to go wide. Dragon Fodder is a big one, and I expect Fists of Ironwood to be mor at home here. Strength in Numbers may be one of your more important finishers, and Gruul War Chant will be worth a few points on its own. No one will be prepared for Dynacharge game one; also, consider picking up a couple blue fixers for splashing a Teleportal. Snagging a Skirsdag Cultist or Thunderous Wrath for a little late-game reach couldn't hurt, either. Gaea's Anthem will be more important here than GW, as black has a common sweeper for 1/1s.
GW Populate
The other premiere token archetype, this one is more focused on populating big tokens. Urbis Protector is your big non-rare pick up, but Call of the Conclave just got common, and that's a fine failsafe. If GW is open, you should be able to get an Intangible Virtue without too much trouble; still, the card is important enough to grab one relatively early, just in case. Token makers first; once you have 7-10 token makers, all those Wake the Reflections that everyone else is laughing at will be insane. Oddly, it seems that this is the deck that wants Giantbaiting, not GR; I'm sure it will do its job in GR, but Populating the 4/4 seems legit. The best body for Fists of Ironwood is clearly Bronzebeak Moa.
Shardchetypes Bant: Splicers (blinkulate). Splicers abound in these colors, and the blink effects from UW coupled with some populate cards should provide some sweet advantage. Naya: Tokens, clearly. Sunhome Guildmage is a nice payoff and should come late. Grixis: Control/self-mill. I like the UB shards more than the color pair itself, as they seem to have more vision. Grixis offers a good inevitability package with BR removal and UB fliers, and there does seem to be the makings of a sweet graveyard deck there, with plenty of Unearth and Torrent of Souls to power through a lot of damage out of nowhere. Esper: Control/grind. If you can get some Unburial Rites, you could go the GY route, but most notably here are Sin Collector, Moroii, or Agent of Masks behind a Wall of Denial. Some Lone Missionaries seem like a good way to last until your inevitablity becomes... um, inevitable. Careful with Gift of Orzhova; y'know, like an aura. That being said, there aren't a crrazy number of common answers to this; Grasp of Phantoms, Aethertow and Grisly Spectacle. Maybe it's poised to be even better here. Jund: Sacrifice tokens. Golgari Rotwurm is a fine sacrifice outlet. Golgari Germination will be nasty with Rotwurm/Falkenrath Noble/Unearth. I don't expect GB to be a common archetype, so you may even get passed some Putrefys. I expect it may be hard to buils this properly, but if the pieces fall into place, your board may basically be ":symb:: Opponent loses 2 life, you gain 1 life."
Since the shop doesn't want to use a stick, then the only tool left is the carrot; in other words, prize support. Even if it were a small amount, it would be incentive enough for most to stay, and a small bonus for those who do stay while some leave.
Otherwise, I dunno, a sign? I mean, since it's presumably a keep draft, it's not like anyone is passing a blood moon (the only card I can think of that's both good value and not very playable in Limited... except Goyf, but, c'mon, no one is passing that.) The fake-drafters would be just as well off buying packs for themselves.
Of those 3, I'd suggest Khans, but I wouldn't suggest Khans block at all... it's a three color format, which can be tricky to draft, and frankly I didn't love it. You do get some fetchlands out of it, but those go for $10-$15 anyway, so I wouldn't warp the experience for them.
Personally, I'd do Kaladesh. It's a fun format with a number of available strategies, and some good lessons about drafting (i.e., Consulate Skygate.) It also carries good value (masterpieces, fast lands, etc) and won't lose value any time soon. The archetypes are fairly straightforward, too.
It's that time again! Tell us about your prerelease experience: was it fun? Fast? Durdletown? Were there any over- or under- achievers worth mentioning? Did you find any cards from Kaladesh jumped or crashed in power? Is this Assembly-Worker deck a thing?
I think, in part, it is due to a flourishing of videos/podcasts/articles on limited strategy. Time was, forums were one of the only sources available for limited strategy... now you can't throw a bitcoin without hitting 1-3 videos and articles published within the day on the most up-to-date info from the pros.
I had two in my last deck, and it's pretty good. Providing a blocker for small creatures and two evasive power is pretty good for control decks. I didn't have much faith in it, but often, it was the card I wanted to cast, and those thopters did good work. Interacts well with a lot of the set.
It should be noted that Fabricate has ever only two modes; either you get the counters, or the Servos. It reads that you can't, for example, use "Fabricate 2" to generate one creature and one counter.
Such a great card. My favorite time with it was when I declined to block my opponent's 2/2, and they cast the combat trick they were holding anyway, because their life had lost all meaning.
Other thing I'd like to add:
Take signets... should be obvious, but they go much later than they should.
Three-color really seems the best. There's so much fixing.
Don't be afraid to switch gears much later than you would in a non-Master set. I'm often switching as late as pack 2 and finding myself quite comfortable.
If I expected to get many more drafts under my belt, I would be interested in trying the Arachnus Spinner deck... I misread the card at first, not realizing its ability can be used by ANY spider. Arachnus Webs seem to go fairly late, and even its inability to stay on a 4+ power creature long doesn't matter too much, as they can be searched from your graveyard. 6 mana is not backbreaking at all for a 5/7 reacher.
Well, that certainly beats... from a dollar perspective. Fortunately, the set does not require rares to function at all.
I wanted to get a little bare-bones assessment of MM17 out today, as I know many of us will be jumping on one of very few attempts to draft it tomorrow. Unfortunately, I ran out of time to complete it, so what follow is a very partial review of the spoiled "set" and what I expect to see in the draft format. Please add as much as you like, and I'll try to finish it up tonight, possibly in editing.
Modern Masters 2017 Draft Preview
As with all high-powered draft formats (Cube, Master Sets,) synergy is much, much more important than just having pile.dek. The goals of the allied color pairs and shards are as follows (as near as I can tell.)
UW Blink
Focused on support like Momentary Blink and Ghostly Flicker, this color pair wants ETB value. Along with some token makers, there are value creatures for general tempo plays. Try to prioritize white token-generators-on-a-stick (i.e., Splicers) above blue ones, as white's other major archetype will be fighting you for them pretty hard.
UB Control/Graveyard
This pair was a little harder for me to evaluate, as nothing jumped out as being broken for the pair. There are ways to get cards into your graveyard in the pair, but only black has Unearth creatures to take advantage of it; while blue does have a few cards with flashback, they're not exactly backbreaking in Limited (or cheap.) Still, the value of holding both a Grisly Spectacle and a Spire Monitor is up there. It seems to really open up with a splash of White, allowing flashback on Unburial Rites, and the out-of-hand casting of Lingering Souls. I expect UB to be more straight-forward; fliers, control (there are many black discard spells) and hopefully a wall or two. Also worth noting, Dinrova Horrors love Ghostly Flicker the most, so if you think you're UB, pick up a flicker and try to wheel a Horror or two (also, UB might be a fine audible if white seems to dry up for this reason.)
BR Sacrifice
Traitorous Instinct is a common, as is Vampire Aristocrat. Nuff said? No, of course not, this is a Master Set! There's also plenty of Unearth, and you may even be able to steal a game or two from an opponent unused to staring at your unearth cards in your GY. Falkenrath Noble is a juicy little drainer, too. Grab a sac outlet or two, then go to town on Dragon Fodder and Kathari Bomber. Sacrifice outlets first! There are plenty of dorks to sac, and plenty of payoffs, but if you lack any efficient sac outlets, your deck is going bust.
RG Tokens
One of two token archetypes (three, is you count combining them,) RG wants to go wide. Dragon Fodder is a big one, and I expect Fists of Ironwood to be mor at home here. Strength in Numbers may be one of your more important finishers, and Gruul War Chant will be worth a few points on its own. No one will be prepared for Dynacharge game one; also, consider picking up a couple blue fixers for splashing a Teleportal. Snagging a Skirsdag Cultist or Thunderous Wrath for a little late-game reach couldn't hurt, either. Gaea's Anthem will be more important here than GW, as black has a common sweeper for 1/1s.
GW Populate
The other premiere token archetype, this one is more focused on populating big tokens. Urbis Protector is your big non-rare pick up, but Call of the Conclave just got common, and that's a fine failsafe. If GW is open, you should be able to get an Intangible Virtue without too much trouble; still, the card is important enough to grab one relatively early, just in case. Token makers first; once you have 7-10 token makers, all those Wake the Reflections that everyone else is laughing at will be insane. Oddly, it seems that this is the deck that wants Giantbaiting, not GR; I'm sure it will do its job in GR, but Populating the 4/4 seems legit. The best body for Fists of Ironwood is clearly Bronzebeak Moa.
Shardchetypes
Bant: Splicers (blinkulate). Splicers abound in these colors, and the blink effects from UW coupled with some populate cards should provide some sweet advantage.
Naya: Tokens, clearly. Sunhome Guildmage is a nice payoff and should come late.
Grixis: Control/self-mill. I like the UB shards more than the color pair itself, as they seem to have more vision. Grixis offers a good inevitability package with BR removal and UB fliers, and there does seem to be the makings of a sweet graveyard deck there, with plenty of Unearth and Torrent of Souls to power through a lot of damage out of nowhere.
Esper: Control/grind. If you can get some Unburial Rites, you could go the GY route, but most notably here are Sin Collector, Moroii, or Agent of Masks behind a Wall of Denial. Some Lone Missionaries seem like a good way to last until your inevitablity becomes... um, inevitable. Careful with Gift of Orzhova; y'know, like an aura. That being said, there aren't a crrazy number of common answers to this; Grasp of Phantoms, Aethertow and Grisly Spectacle. Maybe it's poised to be even better here.
Jund: Sacrifice tokens. Golgari Rotwurm is a fine sacrifice outlet. Golgari Germination will be nasty with Rotwurm/Falkenrath Noble/Unearth. I don't expect GB to be a common archetype, so you may even get passed some Putrefys. I expect it may be hard to buils this properly, but if the pieces fall into place, your board may basically be ":symb:: Opponent loses 2 life, you gain 1 life."
Common and Uncommon Removal (I might be missing some for now, I'll finish up later, hopefully)
Common
W
Gideon's Lawkeeper
U
Crippling Chill
Grasp of Phantoms
Mist Raven
Spell pierce
B
Grisly Spectacle
Bone Splinters
Cower in Fear
R
Chandra's Outrage
Magma Jet
G
Arachnus Web
UB
Agony Warp
BR
Augur Spree
UW
Aethertow
GR
Ground Assault
Uncommon
W
Banishing Stroke
Path to Exile
Pitfall Trap
B
Seal of Doom
Pyroclasm
BR
Terminate
BG
Putrefy
UR
Izzet Charm
Pivots (Cards that are better early picks, as they go into different decks)
White:
Flickerwisp
Blade/Master Splicer
Urbis Protector
Blue:
Tandem Lookout
Wing Splicer
Black:
Falkenrath Noble/removal
Red:
Bloodrush/removal
Green:
Gaea's Anthem/Strength in Numbers? No real great ones here.
Keystone Cards (i.e., you'd better have one of these if you're in this archetype)
GW Intangible Virtue
UW Ghostly Flicker, Momentary Blink
GR Dynacharge, Gruul War Chant
BR Vampire Aristocrat
UB Um... Grisly Spectacle? Not sure about this.
Otherwise, I dunno, a sign? I mean, since it's presumably a keep draft, it's not like anyone is passing a blood moon (the only card I can think of that's both good value and not very playable in Limited... except Goyf, but, c'mon, no one is passing that.) The fake-drafters would be just as well off buying packs for themselves.
Personally, I'd do Kaladesh. It's a fun format with a number of available strategies, and some good lessons about drafting (i.e., Consulate Skygate.) It also carries good value (masterpieces, fast lands, etc) and won't lose value any time soon. The archetypes are fairly straightforward, too.