better sell them and buy something i'll really enjoy
This is my overriding philosophy for just about everything. Cards you'll use and enjoy are incredibly more valuable than cards that you just kind of have.
This is also the same reason I don't mind overpaying a bit on newly released set foils for cube since I know I'll get to enjoy playing them sooner.
What is the point of the beseiji? Gamble and Crop roation can't be cast with it. I see little point in making Punishing Fire uncountable. Loam is the only card I can think of wanting to protect, but even then it doesn't seem like the life is worth it. If they counter loam, all it does is delay and I'm normally fine with that. Grip in the board doesn't really need the uncounterabillity, Counterbalance on 3 is the only think I can think where it matters.
Boseiju pushes loam through counterbalance which is pretty important. Grip absolutely is necessary, I've never seen a lands board with less than 2, most are on 4.
@mythkiller do you need 2 thicket and a canopy? I'd play the 4th ghost quarter over one of them, or bog main. Do you not like karakas in the 75?
Yea Boseiju is there for exactly that reason, a fair number of miracles decks in the meta and pushing through that counterbalance is really important or loam isnt delayed, its actually just locked out (since they'll just keep the 2 mana spell on top using sensei).
Yea 3 instant draws may be excessive. I was worried that 4 wasteland, 4 port and 4 GQ may be excessive? Maybe the Karakas instead of a tranquil?
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Oh jeez, I totally scanned over your deck and didn't notice you have both.
I'd recommend 8-9 mana denial lands maximum, 12 is a lot and takes up extra space in the deck. I personally go for zero ports right now, but have seen people on things like 4 waste 3 port 2 GQ. I'd definitely play bog main and at least put karakas in the side. I'd also add at least a third grove and third punishing fire. Maybe find space for a copy of Manabond too.
Maybe:
-4 Port
-1 Tranquil Thicket
+1 Ghost Quarter (to 4)
+1 Bojuka Bog (Main)
+1 Grove of the Burnwillows
+1 Punishing Fire
+1 Barbarian Ring (Sanctum Prelate is a real card)
The sideboard slot freed up from bog can turn into a karakas.
I need some help with the sideboard plan with this deck. I understand it game 1, but have a difficult time "meta-gaming" the sideboard pieces. I have now learned to always expect Rest in Peace from White/Miracles decks, and always expect Leyline of the Void from Black/Combo decks, and Blood Moon against Red/Sneak Attack Decks. So board in KGrips even if I don't see those hate pieces game one. Expect to see it after game one. Otherwise, I really do not know how to sideboard other than using Channel Fireball's Guide.
my SB is
4 Krosan Grip
1 Song of the Dryads
1 Nissa Vital Force
4 Sphere of Resistance
1 Boil
2 Tireless Tracker
2 Molten Vortex
Song of the Dryads is cute. It really depends on the deck I'm facing. Generally I only expect leyline of the void from decks like Eldrazi and a lot of miracles decks are actually moving to surgicals to combat RB reanimator so I usually only see RIP against D&T and some less popular decks like Enchantress. I'd expect surgicals more often than anything else, especially from decks like grixis/4C delver and the leovold variants.
If you're really concerned about the graveyard hate that much, I'd consider a third tireless tracker in the Song of the Dryads spot, as they can steal games by getting you a bunch of card advantage without using the yard.
What is the point of the beseiji? Gamble and Crop roation can't be cast with it. I see little point in making Punishing Fire uncountable. Loam is the only card I can think of wanting to protect, but even then it doesn't seem like the life is worth it. If they counter loam, all it does is delay and I'm normally fine with that. Grip in the board doesn't really need the uncounterabillity, Counterbalance on 3 is the only think I can think where it matters.
Boseiju pushes loam through counterbalance which is pretty important. Grip absolutely is necessary, I've never seen a lands board with less than 2, most are on 4.
@mythkiller do you need 2 thicket and a canopy? I'd play the 4th ghost quarter over one of them, or bog main. Do you not like karakas in the 75?
The case is gorgeous - really fantastic work by Graciano, Poole, Tedin, and Post.
I wish post left a little extra room but I really can't complain. It looks great. I sprayed it with a finishing matte spray to seal the markers. Hopefully it works out well.
Will get a picture later, but my gift finally arrived! I got a handmade 100% wool dicebag with a drawstring. It's awesome! Also got a foil Selvala's stampede for the cube. Wild or Free!
Yeah. I recently cut helm though, as I think the D&T matchup is fine. I cut 2 trinispheres and the helm and added 3 spheres of resistance for the slightly faster combo meta like RB Reanimator. Might even start playing surgical.
Apologies in advance if this is the wrong place for this post but it feels more applicable to this subforum than the general one (should it go in store discussion?) My question/topic is two fold. First why do many stores buy list pricing not have different tiers for cards? i.e. We buy at 50% TCGP for standard/modern cards (as they have a lot more volatility and reprints)... 60% for legacy staples... and 70% for reserved list cards? Maybe it's limited to my area but the stores nearby seem to have just a flat margin for all cards (except bulk/dollar bin rares being separate categories) and all just seem to look up TCGP and don't have their own lists (I get this part since maintaining a buylist is a chore with all the volatility and only makes sense for big vendors like the online guys... and using TCGP protects you from big spikes/crashes better).
Second why are TCGP buylist prices so different than many stores? Case in point dual lands. For example a volcanic island is listed as $200 buylist in TCGP (I chose this example on purpose as it the TCGP buylist does seem high relative to TCGP low) but numerous local stores would only give me $120 to $130 and SCG says $150. Is it influenced by individuals trying to buy them cheaper (and not maintain margins but go for volume)? Or is it just some smaller shops are perfectly fine getting $20 or so per card to list them on TCGP and that is why they set their prices higher? The later makes some sense to me, especially for higher end reserved list cards. That's not a lot of effort to get some easy profit and cover rent etc.
Any shop owners care to enlighten me on what I am missing? I feel like my buy list policy would be one of the first things I'd nail down if I was opening a gaming store (knowing MTG and similar TCG are one of the main profit sources of those type of stores) so just curious what goes into it. I've seen/read plenty of interesting finance articles over the year but never anything on this topic. Thanks!
So I am a long time MTG player (and fairly active trader/poster here years back) who doesn't get to play as often since I had kids. I decided to sell of some revised duals and offered them to a few local stores for TCGP buy list pricing. Both offered me substantially less stating that have a policy to buy at X% of TCGP. Now as someone who followed the market heavily for years I totally understand this approach. You need a strict margin like that to protect yourself from the volatility of the market, reprints, and many other considerations. I just question why stores don't have separate margins for higher end stuff. I am talking reserve list, sealed product level stuff. Using the same percentages for standard/modern just makes no sense as there is a lot less risk... and the price differences are far larger when dealing with high end staples. Yes the margin is the same but the actual $$ differences becomes huge.
Without stating specific values I was offering them my cards for more than 25% off TCGP low (yet alone their actual market value as most were NM) and was matching TCGP buylist prices. They proceeded to offer me a price hundreds of dollars less. How does this make any sense? If they bought them off me at the offered TCGP buylist price and turned around and sold them on TCGP at TCGP low, then they would have made hundreds (even after fees). Instead they say no thanks I want a couple hundred dollars more out of this deal.
Any shop owners care to enlighten me on what I am missing? I do not mean for this to be salty. I am confident I can sell the cards and for more than I was asking at the stores. It will just take some time waiting for a buyer to come along. I have to assume I am missing something but just wanted to know what? This wouldn't be a question to me if the cards has reprint risk etc... but these are revised duals.
Apologies for an extremely late post.
Most stores have a flat rate buylist price because it's much easier as an online system to upkeep and maintain. If you were to go to a GP or something and hand a vendor a stack of cards, they would probably price it out differently based on what you had. It also depends on store inventory. Some stores near me do offer better buy prices on cards that are moving especially quick.
As for your second question on differing buy prices... I'll use your example. Starcity can pay more for their cards because they price their cards higher than other places and also can maintain a very large inventory with a large consumer base constantly trading cards in for store credit etc. A couple thousand people might shop at starcity a day, but how many people walk through a small brick and mortar store or surf a small online website that most don't know about? A smaller store will usually have a much harder time moving things, especially if the local area around the store does not support said format. A store that I know of was that way. I remember talking to the owner once about some dual lands and he said while he'd buy them, he often bought them at an admitted very low buy price because they were so hard and slow to sell. He was better off buying standard and modern stuff, while at the mercy of a price spike or drop, could also sell in a few days or weeks.
This is also the same reason I don't mind overpaying a bit on newly released set foils for cube since I know I'll get to enjoy playing them sooner.
Oh jeez, I totally scanned over your deck and didn't notice you have both.
I'd recommend 8-9 mana denial lands maximum, 12 is a lot and takes up extra space in the deck. I personally go for zero ports right now, but have seen people on things like 4 waste 3 port 2 GQ. I'd definitely play bog main and at least put karakas in the side. I'd also add at least a third grove and third punishing fire. Maybe find space for a copy of Manabond too.
Maybe:
-4 Port
-1 Tranquil Thicket
+1 Ghost Quarter (to 4)
+1 Bojuka Bog (Main)
+1 Grove of the Burnwillows
+1 Punishing Fire
+1 Barbarian Ring (Sanctum Prelate is a real card)
The sideboard slot freed up from bog can turn into a karakas.
Song of the Dryads is cute. It really depends on the deck I'm facing. Generally I only expect leyline of the void from decks like Eldrazi and a lot of miracles decks are actually moving to surgicals to combat RB reanimator so I usually only see RIP against D&T and some less popular decks like Enchantress. I'd expect surgicals more often than anything else, especially from decks like grixis/4C delver and the leovold variants.
If you're really concerned about the graveyard hate that much, I'd consider a third tireless tracker in the Song of the Dryads spot, as they can steal games by getting you a bunch of card advantage without using the yard.
Boseiju pushes loam through counterbalance which is pretty important. Grip absolutely is necessary, I've never seen a lands board with less than 2, most are on 4.
@mythkiller do you need 2 thicket and a canopy? I'd play the 4th ghost quarter over one of them, or bog main. Do you not like karakas in the 75?
I had the crappy FTV one for the LONGEST time. Finally got around to getting the nice one.
I wish post left a little extra room but I really can't complain. It looks great. I sprayed it with a finishing matte spray to seal the markers. Hopefully it works out well.
Last pic is my PirateLabs case I carry my cube in, decorated by some artist attendees.
Yeah. I recently cut helm though, as I think the D&T matchup is fine. I cut 2 trinispheres and the helm and added 3 spheres of resistance for the slightly faster combo meta like RB Reanimator. Might even start playing surgical.
Apologies for an extremely late post.
Most stores have a flat rate buylist price because it's much easier as an online system to upkeep and maintain. If you were to go to a GP or something and hand a vendor a stack of cards, they would probably price it out differently based on what you had. It also depends on store inventory. Some stores near me do offer better buy prices on cards that are moving especially quick.
As for your second question on differing buy prices... I'll use your example. Starcity can pay more for their cards because they price their cards higher than other places and also can maintain a very large inventory with a large consumer base constantly trading cards in for store credit etc. A couple thousand people might shop at starcity a day, but how many people walk through a small brick and mortar store or surf a small online website that most don't know about? A smaller store will usually have a much harder time moving things, especially if the local area around the store does not support said format. A store that I know of was that way. I remember talking to the owner once about some dual lands and he said while he'd buy them, he often bought them at an admitted very low buy price because they were so hard and slow to sell. He was better off buying standard and modern stuff, while at the mercy of a price spike or drop, could also sell in a few days or weeks.
The other sig is Richard Garfield.