Thought I would give an update for anyone wondering how this all played out. After some of the feedback here, monstly jeffbcrandal's, and talking with my LGS owner who ships alot of cards across the country, I decided to file a dispute through Paypal.
Several minutes after filing the dispute I received an email from the vendor. He said that my previous emails got stuck in his spam filter, so he didn't see them before (the email from Paypal prompted him to go searching). He said there policy is absolutely to replace or refund any items that are damaged or lost in the mail, and that he would do that for me. He is shipping out the cards today and posting a partial refund for the difference.
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Bigtraine posted a message on Is this vendor in the wrong?Posted in: Talk and Entertainment -
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Valarin posted a message on Living out of a CarPosted in: Talk and EntertainmentMaybe but I think I'm just ahead of the curve.
Lol. "If I live like a homeless person, I'm not a bum, I'm "ahead of the curve"
Let me know what your back is like after sleeping in a car for a month. Let me know how much $$ you are spending on food eating out because you have no refrigerator or way to cook anything. Let me know how your social life is when you are living in a car.
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Highroller posted a message on Why the Forum is on Green Skin (update from admin in first post)I, for one, find it awesome that everything turned green tinted because of malicious code.Posted in: Community Discussion
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Sene posted a message on tl;dr 2 - Burnout, WWYD, and LeaksHi, it's me again! Last time I posted something like this, I was an admin expressing my concerns about a hostile community creating staff burnout, and that I was on the verge of resigning myself. I ended up resigning, as most of you probably know, for reasons not at all unrelated. Now I again feel the need to post another somewhat similar thread on the subject, though as a regular user this time around. Also, I feel I should mention that I wrote this on my own, and without the staff's input or consent. So if you dislike or disagree with what I say here, please aim your discontent at me, and not the staff.Posted in: Community Discussion
Once upon a time, it was decided that this community should give users the power to air their grievances with things around the site, and get heard, not silenced for their opinions. When they feel they've been treated incorrectly by moderators, they may complain publicly. This is pretty great in theory, and actually somewhat rare among internet communities - I haven't seen any forum where the users are allowed to speak their mind about this sort of stuff to the extent that they are here. But recently, things have gone too far.
One would think that when staff makes a mistake, at least the learning process will make them better equipped to make fewer mistakes in the future. I don't think that is the case on MtG Salvation. Why? Because when staff makes a mistake, they are hounded in Community Issued. They are attacked over and over, called corrupt, called liars, whatever you want. References to Subterranean Spirit and/or the exodus from MtG News are quick to surface. Now, usually when there is an outrage in CI, it is usually rooted in a legit problem. This is because staff makes mistakes, always have and always will. It's a hard job, folks. But when they make these mistakes, try to find it in you to forgive them, or at the very least, not become outright mean. When staff is attacked relentlessly over a mistake, what's going to happen is burnout. Burnout leads to staff apathy and resignations (as we've seen plenty of during the past few months, more than any other time in the site's history, by a considerable amount), and consequently, more mistakes.
We'll all enjoy the site a lot more if we stop getting mad about insignificant issues on an internet forum. Give the people in charge the opportunity to explain their side of the story, don't go straight for the throat, and try to see things from all sides. In general, just try to be a little more friendly. It's amazing how much that helps (and this obviously applies to mods too)
Also important to remember is that while CI drama is a considerable strain on staff time and resources, most of the site doesn't know and doesn't care. Most users post about Magic: the Gathering in Magic: the Gathering forums, happily unaware of disputes and animosity, and that's how it should be. But a problem is that staff's attention is skewed towards the 3% in CI (random number), while more time should probably be spent on the rest of the site - improving the front page, improving Magic-related content in their respective subforums, etc. That's stuff that actually matters more than what's going on in this forum here, and another reason to give the staff a break.
Anyway, in the GRRRR thread we have a saying; "WWYD", which means "What Would Yomako Do". Yomako is a former mod who dispelled all kinds of grim atmospheres by just posting adorable posts with lots of and the like, which immediately caused all the other posters to be like :aww:. I'm thinking that many CI regulars could do with a bit of WWYD these days.
Now I'll address the Mod Lounge leaker(s) directly: YOU are harming MtG Salvation in a very serious way. Yes, you are. I don't know your intentions behind these leaks, maybe you think you are doing the site a favor by letting users know things they "deserve" to know, maybe you just want to be liked by both "sides" of this mess (I hate to use the word "sides", as there shouldn't be any), but you are doing a major mistake if you, like the rest of us, would like to see MtG Salvation thrive. I don't want to accuse a single staff member of being the leak, because I consider all staff members friends, and I've had good times interacting with them in the social areas of the mod lounge and elsewhere, but one or more of you have forsaken all honesty and integrity, and that is saddening. I'm sure that when your (the leaker's) identity is revealed, I'll be heartbroken, because I probably both liked you and trusted you. Please stop what you're doing. Thanks to you, many respected, long-time users are banned, and many good staff members have left their positions.
Those of you who are on the receiving end of these leaks: If you want the best for MtG Salvation, you should help the staff uncover the leaker(s), because these are undermining the staff and the site to a degree you might not have realized. Be an adult and don't redistribute it. Work with the staff, and if you find the information you're sent disturbing, they can probably explain what's up. Unless you hate this site and want it to die in a fire, of course, then I suppose you're doing a good job of it. But in that case, please, can't you just leave our site alone and go somewhere else? A lot of people here love the site, even if you don't. Show some compassion.
Leaks will twist information, antagonize users, and actively prevent transparency because senior staff will now think twice about sharing anything of importance with the vanilla staff, and with good reason. The staff can't trust one another, and that is pretty much worse than anything else. I feel that the single biggest mistake I ever made as an admin of this site was (along with my co-admins at the time) bringing the information about Curse down from the Admin Lounge and into the lower staff lounges. Yes, I think my largest mistake was placing thorough trust in the staff. That is pretty messed up, and I wish it wasn't so. But at this point, I can't help but think that it is the truth.
I have talked with the admins about the possibility of a return, but as long as I feel that I can't trust everyone on staff, I most certainly won't. Initially after I resigned, I envisioned a return before the Forum Awards to help run them, and at least in time to write the second State of the Community thread too (scheduled for December 1st, I imagine). Right now though, I can say that I have no intention of returning. For the time being, I know I just want to turtle up in my social areas, and not have to care about anything else. Least of all CI drama.
Bring the fun back! Also, we need more
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Stabulous posted a message on Philosophy Jokeshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M-cmNdiFuI&feature=relatedPosted in: Philosophy
This video was posted in the joke part of the philosophical ressources from the forum. I laughed it hard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uYO0vsI6UM
This is a video response to the previous video.
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9909 posted a message on Wiki Mod Abuse of PowerHi guys,Posted in: Community Discussion
All right. I wouldn't noticed this were it not for a uptick in new registrants and my not checking votan's profile (to PM votan). I'm supposed to be busy with real-life things to the point that I completely cut MTGS activity.
First and foremost, look, understandably you are rather miffed, having invested so much time and energy into your current clan's page, and I apologize for any distress or inconvenience that I may have incurred. As such, please accept my sincerest apologies; though, if you should choose not to, that is your prerogative as well.Quote from TordeckSince the bloathole in question decided to set it so he cant get PMed and isnt a real mod and therefor doesnt have a help desk I am just gunna put this here.
Dear 9909,
Not sure who made you God's Gift to the wiki but the next time you nuke a page you should have the fortitude to say something to the writer/owner of the page. Or even better how about learning to give a warning to get to standards (whatever the hell those happen to be that a well kept history of the clan is fit for deletion) before acting.
Sincerely,
One Pissed Off Clan
I believe that votan, my fellow MTGS Wiki system operator, has replied to this well, and I am very blessed and thankful to have votan amongst my peers. (Thanks, votan. I also don't mean to sound condescending if that's how things sound; text is what it is.) If votan has not, or you feel that votan has not, you and I may, say, discuss this, should choose to, via personal message, perhaps with the blessing and under the auspices of the rest of the MTGS Wiki staff and MTGS forums staff.
I shall take your post on board and consider some of the more interesting parts, and I heed the fact that I could have - yes, I certainly could have - notified significant contributors to articles that have since been deleted. For this, I rightly apologize again.
If you should wish for your article to be restored, please contact me or another MTGS Wiki system operator so that we may, if it is that, rectify this issue as soon as feasible. In the interest of the wiki standards and policy, please acknowledge the fact that the article in question, Clan Mono-Black, so I am lead to believe, in its time did not make a case, by the merit of the article itself and the clan, for the article's existence; but, this is really only one issue amongst many. Please don't feel as though I've targeted you individually or you collectively or had or have any intent to anger you.
This was by and large the thing that baited me into reply. Shazbot, I would like to direct your attention to the "User:" preceding the article name, "Magic Mage"; please duly note the page space. The "User:" page space is not the main article page space and is less stringent in its adherence to policies.Quote from ShazbotJust so I understand the purpose of the wiki...
Pages like this are in no danger of being deleted?
If it pleases you, and I hazard that you would or you probably wouldn't have brought it up, would you care to clarify "pages like this"? Or, have you chosen that specific user page for other, perhaps more personal reasons?
Other than that, I do not have a reply or further comment to your question, an interesting one. I hope that you can be kind enough to understand.
If you have anything to contribute - ideas, visions, etc. - you may do so via contacting any active MTGS Wiki staffer or posting in the Wiki subforum that we are so fortunate to have. I shall be taking a step back due to real-life commitments and I have faith that the guys can better handle anything than I could, can, and have (so you won't necessarily have to deal with me or, via my posts, my weight or worth, however much that is).
As a consequence of some back and forth, we have moved to move these to user pages.Quote from BelgarethYea I don't think Votan is correct on all user pages being gone, I know several are still there .... infact some belonging to members who are not even members anymore.
In accordance with discussions, we have moved to shift the direction of MTGS Wiki more to matters of or pertaining to Magic: The Gathering as opposed to MTGS topics of interest, trivial or otherwise. Although I cannot completely divulge the entirety of discussions (as I hope you can appreciate and I am certain that you, as someone who has been in a proper post, can understand), privacy was, and remains, a consideration in the retention of pages on the current MTGS Wiki. I hope you can support this current paradigm. (... I've forgotten what I had in mind. It had do with integrity. Pardon me. It's late.)
Rx: Please take with a grain of salt.Then again I never really took the wiki seriously as like the real wikipedia it is rife with inaccuracies.
If this post is thanked, I'm not sure for what; though, this post was thanked before the edit, so I'm pretty sure things aren't endorsed or have the support or thanks of thankers after this point.
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Sorry if this sounds paternalistic but the fear for your safety, the gray areas of a staff user/article page, and the high upkeep of such a page.Quote from votanIt was decided among the Wiki Sysops that we wanted to distance the Wiki from the actual site (and make more game related and less Sally related), so the decision was made to delete all clan and Personal pages (even my beautiful personal page was cut :crying:).
You can create a user page if you want, votan. If we kept the old page, it had too much history and details that were visible to even bots that patrol the Web.
Also, Tordeck, I don't want to sound like an utter arse, please don't throw around the phrase "abuse of power". If you really want it, I can counter - and I don't mean to be argumentative - that 236,672,457* ways from Sunday. I've thought this through and I don't want to sound as though I'm making a threat or some such (and, even if I were to make a threat, wouldn't it only be proper to be able to follow through? :raise:).
By the way, I am thankful for your association with MTGS Wiki to date and your contributions (even they have been hidden from plain view). I also thank you for your apparent interest in the integrity of the wiki and the wiki in general.
*OK. That's a wee bit of hyperbole. More like 20 or so.
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jeffbcrandall posted a message on question for cashiersPosted in: Real-Life AdviceQuote from King PunMy question was suppose to focus more on how often do people hand you say a 5 dollar bill and three 1 dolalr bills if the total was 4 dollars mistaking a 5 for a 1.
Ah, I see. It happens from time to time. People will give an extra dollar without noticing it ($4 in 1's instead of $3), or similar to your example with the $5 instead of the $1 bill. Its the job of any cashier, and one of the first things they teach you to do, is always make sure you count out the money carefully and thoroughly to make sure the amount is correct. If they are short, then show them the money and ask for the extra owed, if they paid too much, then give them back the extra that they accidently paid. It is not okay, at any time, to not give the correct amount back if they accidently screw up with the amount given. -
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Kangodo posted a message on [[Official]] MTGS and CursePosted in: Community DiscussionQuote from Stoogeslap1) What I am basically asking is, are all the mods going to lose their mod-positions? If so, will Curse hire on others as paid positions to be mods?
2) Or does anyone think the mods will be kept, then given hourly/salary?
3) Since the site's going corporate, and corporations are in the business of making money, will we see more banners/ads here?
I am concerned because there are some beloved mods here that many of us will not want to go?
4) Also, is does Curse have anything to do w/ "curse client" - a program that has been used in the past for down loading games from the internet?
Let me tell you about my experience with other sites:
1) No.
2) No, they still volunteer for this job.
3) See my links!
4) Yes, it's their program to download add-ons for games.
Now for the links:
Core Sites
Database Sites
Community Sites
- Minecraft Forum
- Arena Junkies
- Terrariaonline
- DiabloFans
- Darth Hater
- Enter BF3
- Guild Wars 2 Guru
- TERA Fans
- Blade and Soul Dojo
- Warhammer Alliance
- Zybez Runescape Help
- Minecraft Wiki
- Terraria Wiki
- Wowpedia
- Diablo Wiki
- Telarapedia
- Skyrim Wiki
- FFXIV Wiki
- Runes of Magic Wiki
- Blade and Soul Wiki
Those sites all belong to curse, maybe it could give people an idea of what to expect. - To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
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I think the problem is that the person who accused you of net-decking has a different definition of net-decking than you do. While you are using the term in it's narrow (and strictly correct) sense of directly copying and pasting a list from the "net," you opponent is using the term in it's broader (and strictly incorrect) sense of copying the concept of your deck from the "net" while making minor adjustments of your own.
When someone like that accuses you of net-decking, I don't think your response should be "I wasn't net-decking." Rather, you should say that net-decking isn't a valid accusation at all.
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That explanation makes no sense. The person who wrote that explanation doesn't even seem to understand what you are suggesting.
It depends how you mean "private" though. Private like the Market Street forums or private like the Gutter? I would assume the former. The person who wrote that explanation is assuming the latter.