this, minus nighthowler, is a nonbo wit the rest of the deck. nemesis it's ok because you need stuff to be in the yard just when you cast it/activate it. for nighthowler to be relevant you want stuff to stay in the yard all the time.
don't forget a couple of empty the pits!
plus you're playing blue for sidsi and the other sultai's stuff, so how about a couple of jace, the living guildpact (his +1 is very useful) and possibly a couple of counters too.
How is Nighthowler a nonbo? Its exactly what this kind of deck wants. You have to remember when you delve you can remove instances, sorcerys, and lands. It doesnt have to be creatures. Most of the time he is going to be a 3cmc 5/5 at least.
This thread has no direction whatsoever. Chaos rules. For those who would like to actually create a good deck:
I'm going to make my own Faeries thread. With blackjack and hookers.
What would direction look like? Where I think we are is agreed on the control deck list with as few lands as possible. With SoFaF. Leaving about two cards undecided.
No, we haven't. People like me are just not yet sold on using Swords. The main problem, however, is that other people are bringing up thousands of ideas and cardchoices at a time, making them basically worthless. The foucs should be on commonly testing one single card a week or so and then discussing our results with it, not testing like 10 cards at once.
You will never ever get everyone to agree on a 75 let alone a 60. There is no point in trying. I dont see why you are complaining right now since we were actually having a relevant discussion on how to make our pod matchup better, and how to streamline SBs and what cards have been used to success from others. It seems like you are getting nothing out of this thread because its either your way or its wrong. For example I play a single sword of feast and famine to great success, I haven never done worse than X-1 with my list and I went X-1 only once. Every other week I go X-0. So go ahead and make your own thread where you will be talking to yourself. I like brainstorming, and I think it will get us a lot farther and faster than ALL of us testing the same list and tweaking one card at a time. Thats just so inefficient. But then again I play a sword, so Im probably wrong.
I have always liked RUG Delver, but unlike Valanarch I dont think UWR Delver is better than RUG, I do think that Grixes Delver is better though. Anyway! I did a little research and here is a pretty stock list that has won a GP, 2nd a GP, and 3 other Top 8 in GPs.
Shadow of Doubt, Firespot and Kitchen Finks are not Multicolored, are they? I think the card has to be "gold" in order to be a legal target for Glittering Wish.
Those mentioned cards are "hybrid-cards". Or do they count as multicolored too?
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How is Nighthowler a nonbo? Its exactly what this kind of deck wants. You have to remember when you delve you can remove instances, sorcerys, and lands. It doesnt have to be creatures. Most of the time he is going to be a 3cmc 5/5 at least.
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You will never ever get everyone to agree on a 75 let alone a 60. There is no point in trying. I dont see why you are complaining right now since we were actually having a relevant discussion on how to make our pod matchup better, and how to streamline SBs and what cards have been used to success from others. It seems like you are getting nothing out of this thread because its either your way or its wrong. For example I play a single sword of feast and famine to great success, I haven never done worse than X-1 with my list and I went X-1 only once. Every other week I go X-0. So go ahead and make your own thread where you will be talking to yourself. I like brainstorming, and I think it will get us a lot farther and faster than ALL of us testing the same list and tweaking one card at a time. Thats just so inefficient. But then again I play a sword, so Im probably wrong.
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4 Delver of Secrets
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Tarmogoyf
2 Vendilion Clique
Planeswalkers (1)
1 Jace Beleren (goes between Jace, and Garruk Relentless)
Lands (21)
1 Forest
6 Island
1 Mountain
2 Breeding Pool
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Scalding Tarn
2 Steam Vents
1 Stomping Ground
2 Vedalken Shackles
2 Burst Lightning
2 Cryptic Command
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Mana Leak
2 Spell Pierce
2 Spell Snare
2 Eleztrolyze
4 Serum Visions
2 Relic of Progenitus
3 Huntmaster of the Fells
3 Blood Moon
2 Threads of Disloyalty
2 Ancient Grudge
1 Combust
1 Negate
1 Spell Pierce
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1. No it doesnt cause problems. I only play one Scooze main, so you just have to be smart in how you use him.
2. I play 3 Thoughtseize and 3 Iok.
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They are definitely multicolored.