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  • posted a message on Unusual deck theme & commander combinations?
    I have an Intet deck that's all about cheating stuff into play. Some top of deck manipulation for Rashmi, Intet, Djinn of Wishes, Call of the Wild type stuff. Then of course cheat from in hand things, Sneak Attack, Through the Breach, Elvish Piper, Quicksilver Amulet. And even some randomized things like Temporal Aperature and Unexpected Results. It can be really good sometimes or it can start slow and fight to get back into it. But it's fun to have goofy interactions like that. And of course I run all the big baddies to cheat into play(except I won't run Blightsteel, infect is no fun in EDH).

    My true top of deck manipulation is my 5-color deck I refer to as the Deck of Lies. The deck is a commanded by Karona, False God. The goal of the deck is to generate tokens and then find and cast Deceiver of Form. Once in play there are multiple ways to manipulate top of library to put something vastly overpowered on top. Examples are Biovisionary to win in your next end step, Utvara Hellkite attack and X times X 6/6 dragons where X is the number of tokens you have in play, Omnath, Locus of Rage all but one die to legend rule and see eachother die, then you get X times X-1 triggers of 3 damage where X is the number of tokens you had, Pathbreaker Ibex all attack triggers go on the stack then resolve individually giving a massive bonus to each creature (8 * 2^X where X is number of attackers is the final trigger's plus of P/T), Hero of Bladehold get a bunch of attackers with a bunch of Battle Cry triggers. There's a few more options too. In case the Deceiver is killed I have graveyard recursion, exiled I have exile recursion, all else fails I just run anthem effects and have a bunch of powerful tokens. Some of my friends hate the deck because if Deceiver resolves I almost always win. But it's a fun deck that has many surprise concepts of winning that most people never think about.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Where is the line between 'fun' and 'unfun' in casual EDH?
    I would say the single most unfun things people can do in games is anything that removes your opponents ability to do things or massively delays their turn. By that I mean and situation where you lock down mana such as Winter Orb or mass land destruction. Board wipes are fine and often necessary, but sometimes people play Narset and then swing with her casting Armageddon and now nobody is really in the game. That's unfun because the game isn't over, but it basically is for everyone else.
    I've joked about building a deck with the idea of ramping up then tutoring for 2 cards, Mycosynth Lattice and Enduring Ideal. Then the first card you get with Enduring Ideal is Stony Silence. It would lock the board except for triggered abilities and then you can search for enchantments each upkeep to eventually win. However, I would never build the deck because it would be miserable for everyone else to play against since once Ideal resolves they're basically locked out of the game.

    The other extremely unfun thing to play against is someone taking multiple turns in a row. This is especially true if playing in a 4 person EDH pod where you're already waiting for 3 turns to complete before you get your own again, now someone is taking multiple in a row and you're spending 20 minutes between each of your turns. It's extremely unfun for everyone else at the table.(as I tell people who do that "If you want to masturbate, please don't do it while I'm sitting at the table").
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Fast quitters
    There used to be a guy at my local game store who was infamous for quitting any game in which anything happened he even remotely didn't like. I remember one game where a player cast Mesmeric Orb on turn 2, then this quitter took his turn 2 and scooped because "he doesn't like playing against mill". I destroyed the orb on my turn 2 afterwards.

    I did fast quit myself a couple months ago. I was playing my Sharuum deck that is no combos and heavy equipment. Another player turn 2ed an Aura Shards and by turn 5 had destroyed 4 of my permanents (including an artifact land) with it and then cast Return to Dust eliminating 2 more and I just quit as I was now so far behind and couldn't possibly catch up with Aura Shards in play
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Crazy Plays in EDH.
    Quote from Igzex »
    anyone playing with The Gitrog Monster who tells you they're not running infinites they try to do ASAP is a liar.
    Funny thing is that I actually pulled the no mana repeatable discard outlets from my The Gitrog Monster deck because it was going infinite too easily and my friends were starting to be unwilling to play against it. So now my version has no way to go infinite. I still have them in the deck box in case I want to slap it back together to play more competitively. Even without those cards, the deck is still very effective.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Crazy Plays in EDH.
    Playing this past Saturday night. Three of us left in the pod. My board state is Scroll Rack, Coat of Arms, 6 Kobolds from Kher Keep, and a bunch of lands. I cast Deceiver of Form and use Scroll Rack to put Utvara Hellkite on top of my library, then move to combat. Deceiver triggers and all 6 kobolds become Utvara Hellkite, when I attack 6 Hellkites trigger 6 times to create a total of 36 dragons. Due to Coat of Arms being in play, all attacking Hellkites get +42/+42 swinging for easy lethal to both remaining players.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Rudest/worst MTG opponent you've ever played?
    There's a guy who sometimes shows up to my LGS who is infamous for rage quitting whenever something doesn't go his way. I saw him quit a 4 person EDH pod on turn 2 because someone played a Mesmeric Orb and he "hates mill decks". He one time sold his GF's deck to the store because she beat him in a friendly game (shockingly she was no longer his GF after that). I was told he threw a deck across the store after he lost, a deck he was borrowing. He has a tendency to sell entire EDH decks to the store after losing once... Luckily he doesn't show up much anymore, but he was just the worst.

    There was also one guy a few years ago that accused his opponent of trying to cheat him because he miscounted damage from multiple Battle Cry triggers at 4am because it was the midnight prerelease of Mirrodin Besieged. I called him out for being a dick to his opponent and then had to face him the next round where when I beat him he threw his pen at my face.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on [KLD] - Spoiler Discussion for Modern
    Hello immediate addition to my Purphoros EDH deck!
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Magic 95/96
    If I played this I'd be tempted to try to recreate the deck I played in that era, it was UB control with Sorceress Queen, Royal Assassin, Sengir Vampire, Icy Manipulator, counterspells, removal... I don't remember too much what with it being 20 years ago in my mid teens.
    Posted in: Homebrew and Variant Formats
  • posted a message on rings of brighthearth question
    Rings of Brighthearth lets you copy "activated" abilities. An activated ability is something with a colon before (keeping with the Eldrazi theme think Eldrazi Displacer). Kozilek's cast ability is not an activated ability. I believe Kozilek's cast ability falls under "triggered" abilities (I'm almost positive but can't find the exact ruling right now) and therefore could be copied using Strionic Resonator.
    Posted in: Magic Rulings Archives
  • posted a message on Eldritch Moon in Modern - Spoiler Discussion
    If only Ugin's Nexus had been in Dragons instead of Khans
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Crazy Plays in EDH.
    Quote from joejack8445 »

    Ibex buffs all creatures, including ones not attacking like your Deceiver of Form, which would have given 2040 (2043 total for each "Ibex") attack increase to each of your creatures, for a total of 16344 damage from your board.

    I was talking to my roommate last night and he realized I missed this and we figured out the corrected math. It's pretty absurd. Definitely the most damage I've ever dealt with a non infinite combo. I now wish I'd used Ibex the time I created 19 tokens, that comes out to just under 80 million damage (instead that time I put Omnath, Locus of Rage on top and 19 see 18 die to legend rule for 342 triggers of 3 damage, nothing to sneeze at).
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Crazy Plays in EDH.
    So many of my crazy plays lately have been thanks to my Deceiver of Form deck. This past weekend I had an entertaining one
    Turn 3 I play Cultivate,
    turn 4 is From Beyond,
    turn 5 is Assemble the Legion,
    turn 6 is Elspeth, Sun's Champion then sacrifice From Beyond to search up Deceiver (one of my lands in play was Temple of the False God which is how I had the mana to do this,
    turn 7 is play Deceiver, move to combat put Deceiver trigger on stack, cast Worldy Tutor to put Pathbreaker Ibex on top of library, attack with 8 creatures (3 from Elspeth, 2 from From Beyond, 3 from Assemble). First Ibex trigger resolves giving each creature +8 to 11 (highest power is Deceiver at 8), second resolves giving 11, then 22, then 44 ... final result is each of the 8 attacking creatures has a power of 1408 and Trample for a grand total of 11264 damage off 8 attacking creatures.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on W/x Humans
    Ran this last Wednesday (3-0-1 with ID in 4th round) and at FNM (4-0)


    I made a few tweaks after FNM that I haven't tested yet. Every single time I ever boarded I removed all 4 Town Gossipmonger so I have removed those from the next version of the deck. In addition I felt Hanweir Militia Captain and Collected Company were allstars every time they were seen (I wasn't sure if I wanted 4 CoCo in a low curve aggro list, I do), so they've been upped to 4. I've also added a 23rd land (I mulliganed A LOT it seems) and a single Kytheon. I'll be trying out the new list this Wednesday to see how it goes.
    Posted in: Standard Archives
  • posted a message on Crazy Plays in EDH.
    This was an interesting one that happened this past Saturday at a sponsored EDH night at a LGS.
    I'm playing my Roon of the Hidden Realm deck which is VERY controly in a 4 person pod. I've managed to basically shut the elves player out for several turns and the guy who we all left alone due to him being land screwed has managed to use Land Tax to make a come back. The 4th guy (I can't remember what he was playing) has just board wiped so I have a clear board state. I pass the turn and let the other 3 players each build up on their turns. Then end of turn of the guy before me I activate Alchemist's Refuge, cast Avenger of Zendikar with 20 lands in play, cast Eldrazi Displacer and flicker Avenger, cast Coiling Oracle and the trigger hits a land, cast Elvish Pioneer and put a land from hand into play. Then on my turn I cast Cultivate, play a fetch land and fetch, then overload Cyclonic Rift and swing out for win holding 3 counter spells in hand for any trickier that might arise.

    I then move on to another pod of winners of round 1. Other commanders are Avacyn and I don't remember but I know it had blue, green, and black. The Avacyn player gets her out early and is beating down the 3rd guy because he got out Lurking Predators early and feels like a threat. Then he thinks it smart to turn on me and I use Alchemist's Refuge to flash in All is Dust and they know I have a Pact of Negation as I searched it up earlier with Mystical Tutor, so Avacyn player is reluctant to replay his commander. A few turns later I have out Eldrazi Displacer, Armada Wurm, Seedborn Muse, and Eternal Witness with enough mana and colorless sources to use Displacer 4 times a turn which I've returned Pact of Negation and Mana Drain to my hand using Witness. UGB player cycles Decree of Pain to try to at least stop my Eternal Witness, I cast Ghostway. Both opponents scoop.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Ever made a deck that surprised you?
    For me it would be my Karona, False God deck. This deck will honestly almost never bother to cast the commander, but it's all based around winning with Deceiver of Form. The deck runs multiple ways to generate large number of tokens, about a dozen or more creature tutors, and a lot of creatures that you'll win if they're all on board. The first time I ever played the deck I cast White Sun's Zenith at the end of turn for x=10, on my turn I cast Deceiver of Form, moved to combat with Deceiver trigger on the stack I cast Worldy Tutor and placed Biovisionary on top of deck. When Deceiver trigger resolves, I have 10 Biovisionaries, I move to end step and win when no one can kill enough to bring me below 4 of them. I've also had 16 tokens and used Scroll Rack with Deceiver on board to put Kokusho, Evening Star on top of deck having 15 die to legend rule and drain all opponents for 75. I've used Scourge of the Throne to attack highest life total and put 6 more combats on the stack then since they don't untap again after each combat, I used Scroll Rack to replace the top card with Sublime Archangel and have 42 Exalted triggers per combat.

    The deck was built largely as a gag idea, but it has worked very well and become a serious threat that most people in my local community are afraid to deal with.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
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