I think the other deck is clearly rogue tribal I guess it could have been grixis seeing the tribe in red maybe the D&d set will bring a grixis one
I'm not sure about rogue tribal; I would guess more of a generic blue/black trickery and sneak deck with some rogues and probably spirits and sea creatures.
I think Rogue tribal is possible because it plays in with one of the sets mechanics and these ARE tie in decks. But general blue black trickery also makes sense considering the fact that Rogues don't have a robust tribal identity to begin with, which makes it hard to throw a rogue tribal deck together.
Wizard school sounds alright. I wonder if Strixhaven is the name of the plane or the school (please don't be both). Two innistrad sets focusing on werewolves and vampires feels like it's 12 years too late to capitalize on the Twilight hype craze of the late 2000s. DND set is...holy *****. Never thought I'd see the dya, but I suppose it was inevitable. I hope it does well for more sets like it.
And I hope we get a Zendikar book in DND this year too.
A real shame his ability is non-functional if you run him as your commander without a bunch of hoops you have to jump through...I've always wanted to see rogue tribal so I hope they do get a real functional tribal leader sometime soon. They could definitely use it.
Not really stoked on the return of Partner (especially when I feel like Partner With is better in general) and not exactly stoked on any of the spoiled partners (that Baron Sengir is especially disappointing to me) but I guess since it's a commander focused draft set I can understand why they used it.
Hopefully we get some good reprints. Reprinted Prossh looks cool, I kinda hope Riku gets reprinted so I can get a kinda fancy looking one. That'd be neat, but he was just reprinted so I suppose I don't expect it.
I think everyone moved on from the multiverse number for Invoke Prejudice after the math showed how it happened. Is it still a bad look for the business because of the room for assumptions it creates? Yes, and they needed to deal with it on those grounds regardless.
With the 7/11 joke, we need to (imo) move away from the "I didn't intend anything by it" defence. Not because it's unfair, it very well could have been unintentionally racist. But that's irrelevant. The joke hinges on racist stereotypes and requires the audience to understand those stereotypes to make sense. That's a racist joke regardless of intent. Moreover, at no point has "oops, I was accidentally racist" worked as a defence. It may inform how people respond to you (education or an ass whuppin'), but it erases none of the impact. I hope MaRo learned from it.
Note that I'm very specifically talking about the call outs in the article from the post I quoted; my responses were more to those claims than anything else. Second I'm not arguing against changing Invoke Prejudice's ID, I just don't think trying to use it as evidence as WOTC failing at something is an argument that holds any water. It's the same with the 7/11 joke. It's not like they make these cards with the art and all the flavor and everything there; some guy sat down and needed a power and toughness for their big dumb vehicle. Eventually this blank piece of paper wound up with 7/11, and people probably chuckled at it. This isn't some intentional poke at Indian culture, it's just some guys not fully connecting the dots from 7/11 to indian stereotypes. Without more evidence suggesting otherwise, I think that could just be an honest to god slip. Maybe that's worth a "sorry we didn't make that connection", but raking them over the coals over it doesn't feel right to me.
There's another google docs linked in that google docs that has a bunch of twitter quotes about how "people from Egypt who's skin color is scary" invading and that's just such misleading concept. Christ, I don't even want to defend War of the Spark but I feel like sometimes we really do try to stretch things to fit that idea. Like Teferi being a "Magical Negro" stereotype. He's got Magic powers, in MAGIC THE GATHERING?? Literally EVERYONE has magic! It's the whole point of the game! Maybe I'll get some flak for this but I honestly don't agree with the idea that somebody says something is racist means it's automatically racist. It's not a dialogue if one side of the conversation just has to "shut up and listen". Sometimes we do need to listen; the way the justice system comes down harder on African Americans is one of those areas where I think that experience is important (although you can also just read the scientific literature that backs those claims up too if one were so inclined). There's a conversation between a few judges in one of those docs that I think is telling and important.
I don't wholly disagree with everything they said either. I absolutely think WoTC's push for "inclusiveness" and "diversity" is as shallow as they claim it is. It goes absolutely hand in hand with the other kinda scummy "business" moves they've made like with ultimate secret lairs or 10+ dollar packs.
They could probably start with the accusations we saw in the last thread that they aren't great employers for BIPOC people.
Yes. Posting the link again for people to see. We need to be talking about this.
Good news, there's already been some small progress on that front, with Mark Rosewater addressing this concern and agreeing there is room for improvement.
That said, I’ll be the first to say we have room for improvement. We have a lot of work to do to get to the place we’d like to be, especially in employment. I believe we’re moving in the right direction, but we need to figure out how to move faster.
It's a slightly tame wording, he doesn't explicitly address the specific allegations that have been made, and there's no guarantee of meaningful change here, but this is, again, a start.
Interesting article that reinforced a LOT of how I feel about their push for inclusiveness or whatever; it's just hollow virtue signalling. I honest to god feel the same way about these bans in a way, they're not changing the problem.
The two things in that note I disagree with are the 7/11 joke and Invoke Prejudice's card number. I highly doubt the latter is intentional (I didn't even realize 1488 was a hate slogan until a few years ago myself), and I can absolutely imagine how the 7/11 joke came about incidentally, not intentionally. I think trying to call them out on those two things without solid proof just makes those claims baseless.
No longer the place for conversation, sadly. The mods have been hard at work, actively censoring this topic.
it's cause every thread about these types of topics descends into an uncleanable ***** storm. i don't blame the mods even if there are many things i'd like to say about the topic.
I get where you're coming from, but that's on us as a community and the mod team as the stewards of the community. We can and should be better at developing a culture of nuanced and respectful dialogue, and I'm of the belief that just locking every thread that might be more challenging to keep on track is antithetical to developing a better culture here.
It's part of what I believe WotC wants, the fandom as a whole and individual communities that make up the fandom addressing issues of racism and bigotry.
I think that these types of discussions are important too, even as they attract trolls and what not. Just not in the "look at these cool new magic cards" part of the forum, perhaps.
No longer the place for conversation, sadly. The mods have been hard at work, actively censoring this topic.
it's cause every thread about these types of topics descends into an uncleanable ***** storm. i don't blame the mods even if there are many things i'd like to say about the topic.
Sure, whatever I guess? This move is both hilarious and confusing at the same time. Especially cleanse.
I don't think this really does anything to fight real world racism nor does it do anything to solve the societal issues of police brutality and our problems in the criminal justice system as a whole. It feels like mostly pointless grandstanding to me. Fantasy trading card games aren't responsible for real world racism.
Nice. Always hated that Take Inventory was a sorcery, and I've always liked cards like this. Very nice when you've got a few in your graveyard to slap one on an isochron scepter too.
If I control two different Essence of the Wild but they're not exactly the same, what do my creatures come into play as copies of? Do I get to choose?
Let's say that I have one Essence that's been mutated with Cloudpiercer, and another that's been mutated with any other creature like Sea-Dasher Octopus.
I think Rogue tribal is possible because it plays in with one of the sets mechanics and these ARE tie in decks. But general blue black trickery also makes sense considering the fact that Rogues don't have a robust tribal identity to begin with, which makes it hard to throw a rogue tribal deck together.
And I hope we get a Zendikar book in DND this year too.
Hopefully we get some good reprints. Reprinted Prossh looks cool, I kinda hope Riku gets reprinted so I can get a kinda fancy looking one. That'd be neat, but he was just reprinted so I suppose I don't expect it.
Note that I'm very specifically talking about the call outs in the article from the post I quoted; my responses were more to those claims than anything else. Second I'm not arguing against changing Invoke Prejudice's ID, I just don't think trying to use it as evidence as WOTC failing at something is an argument that holds any water. It's the same with the 7/11 joke. It's not like they make these cards with the art and all the flavor and everything there; some guy sat down and needed a power and toughness for their big dumb vehicle. Eventually this blank piece of paper wound up with 7/11, and people probably chuckled at it. This isn't some intentional poke at Indian culture, it's just some guys not fully connecting the dots from 7/11 to indian stereotypes. Without more evidence suggesting otherwise, I think that could just be an honest to god slip. Maybe that's worth a "sorry we didn't make that connection", but raking them over the coals over it doesn't feel right to me.
There's another google docs linked in that google docs that has a bunch of twitter quotes about how "people from Egypt who's skin color is scary" invading and that's just such misleading concept. Christ, I don't even want to defend War of the Spark but I feel like sometimes we really do try to stretch things to fit that idea. Like Teferi being a "Magical Negro" stereotype. He's got Magic powers, in MAGIC THE GATHERING?? Literally EVERYONE has magic! It's the whole point of the game! Maybe I'll get some flak for this but I honestly don't agree with the idea that somebody says something is racist means it's automatically racist. It's not a dialogue if one side of the conversation just has to "shut up and listen". Sometimes we do need to listen; the way the justice system comes down harder on African Americans is one of those areas where I think that experience is important (although you can also just read the scientific literature that backs those claims up too if one were so inclined). There's a conversation between a few judges in one of those docs that I think is telling and important.
I don't wholly disagree with everything they said either. I absolutely think WoTC's push for "inclusiveness" and "diversity" is as shallow as they claim it is. It goes absolutely hand in hand with the other kinda scummy "business" moves they've made like with ultimate secret lairs or 10+ dollar packs.
Interesting article that reinforced a LOT of how I feel about their push for inclusiveness or whatever; it's just hollow virtue signalling. I honest to god feel the same way about these bans in a way, they're not changing the problem.
The two things in that note I disagree with are the 7/11 joke and Invoke Prejudice's card number. I highly doubt the latter is intentional (I didn't even realize 1488 was a hate slogan until a few years ago myself), and I can absolutely imagine how the 7/11 joke came about incidentally, not intentionally. I think trying to call them out on those two things without solid proof just makes those claims baseless.
The rest I find myself agreeing with though.
I think that these types of discussions are important too, even as they attract trolls and what not. Just not in the "look at these cool new magic cards" part of the forum, perhaps.
it's cause every thread about these types of topics descends into an uncleanable ***** storm. i don't blame the mods even if there are many things i'd like to say about the topic.
I don't think this really does anything to fight real world racism nor does it do anything to solve the societal issues of police brutality and our problems in the criminal justice system as a whole. It feels like mostly pointless grandstanding to me. Fantasy trading card games aren't responsible for real world racism.
Let's say that I have one Essence that's been mutated with Cloudpiercer, and another that's been mutated with any other creature like Sea-Dasher Octopus.