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  • posted a message on Vagrant Story Mafia: Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead [Town Victory!]
    My read on Rhand hangs in the balance at the moment. It depends on whether DCIII is Town or Scum.
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  • posted a message on Vagrant Story Mafia: Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead [Town Victory!]
    Quote from ika42 »
    scums plz kill me tonihgt.


    This sums how I feel about the game at the moment. If Seppel is Scum, then the Town will have likely lost already since Seppel is the highlight player of the game. In other words, Seppel is Town.



    I like DC3's case on Citric.
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  • posted a message on Vagrant Story Mafia: Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead [Town Victory!]
    PTAP. Injured both my hands... Bandages come off tomorrow.
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  • posted a message on GreyCorp®s' Interplanar Adventures
    Dante watches the crowd from a safe distance and chuckles. Proceeding with the his own personal task, Dante continues to look for different elements that may be combined with his crossbow bolts and for more advance medical supplies. When found, Dante takes notes of what he likes and does not like for future reference.

    Dante: (mumbling to himself) At least everyone is enjoying themselves. It's a good change of pace for today.
    Posted in: the Speakeasy
  • posted a message on Iji Mafia 2: With a Vengeance - Game Over - Alpha Strike (Mafia Win)
    @Proph
    First off, I didn't vote Tanarin in the post you quoted. I voted Tanarin when he did respond and it was in my response to him that I voted him. Second, I'm not sure what else you're trying to get at.

    I'm liking your case on Axelrod, but I'm not ready to vote Axelrod since I don't have a read on you or anyone else in the game at the moment.
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  • posted a message on Vagrant Story Mafia: Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead [Town Victory!]
    @Citric
    I was typing as the thoughts came to my head. The only way that would still affect you is if Rhand is Scum. That should have been rather obvious though...
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  • posted a message on Iji Mafia 2: With a Vengeance - Game Over - Alpha Strike (Mafia Win)
    I'm majorly disconnected from this game. Please direct all missed questions to me so that I may answer them. Also, if someone would give the detailed cases that are going on, that would be great too. I would rather not read an another 1000 posts in the same day.

    Unvote
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  • posted a message on Vagrant Story Mafia: Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead [Town Victory!]
    Post 28: Iso votes for ika after I had asked for Scum games.

    Post 29: ika gives more than what I requested out of good nature. Possible AtE to waiver the heat.

    Post 33: DCIII joins Iso on with a vote on ika.

    Post 41: Iso points to Post 12 and Post 25 as for reason to vote ika. The two posts don't make much sense together coming from a Town mindset.

    Post 42: ika comes in harsh and believes that Iso is trying to Policy lynch him. Even if that were the case, there is other information in the thread that would point towards the ika wagon not being a policy lynch.

    Back and forth commences between Iso and ika. Iso comes out looking a lot stronger for it.

    Post 50: Rhand makes his RVS vote an official on Iso. Asks for a weird meta question about Iso that would not mean anything. Comes across as Rhand trying to validate his vote since his own comment is “His rvs posts give me the shivers.” If it's RVS than there shouldn't have been a need for the vote.

    Post 69: ika gives more than 2 games again, but this could simply be follow up from giving more than 2 Scum games for a consistency PoV.

    Post 99: iso unvotes ika calling ika Town.

    Post 100: Rhand responds to my question and give a straight forward answer. Reads to me that Rhand is starting to believe that Kami could be Scum.

    Post 101: Weak vote from hawk on Bur. Tone... really... from RVS? Fisrt post from hawk this game. Follows up in Post 105. Hawk begins spamming the thread.

    Post 111: Hunger gives his thoughts on the game. The lack of vote considering how much Hunber disliked Iso's play is a disconnect. The whole line of VT can't hold Scum accountable comes across as forced. Town needs their Protective/Investigation roles is BS and comes across as trying to out those roles ASAP. It also jumps to the conclusion that that information would be shared. The game talk only talks about location of grimores and nothing more.

    Post 112: Still do not like that hawk is assuming I am Town. This allows for hawk to change his mind on a whims notice. Town would not be looking to do this.

    Post 118: Kami is seeing part of what I see in Hungers post.

    Post 120: Iso calls out a Hunger/Antny/Kami scum team with hawk as a distant 4th. I can't helpy but wonder if Iso got 2 of the three Scum here and this why Iso was killed.

    Post 122: Hunger calls Antny's question at Iso a townslip... But than contradicts this statement by calling the vote in Mirror forced.

    Post 131: Bur's questioning on meta reads genuine and gives me Town vibes.

    Post 151: I agree with what DCIII has said about hawk here. I get a strong Town read on DCIII from this entire post.

    Post 159: Don't like the fish attempt by Antny for Role information. AFAWK, grimores are limited and not everyone will be able to get a grimore to activate their role. If that information is true, then this post reads like Antny knows this information some how. If Antny does flip Scum, then it's safe to assume that the Mafia have more knowledge about the grimores than the Town does. Proceeds to latch onto hawk's idea of voting on revealing information. Takes my question about to Bur Re: assuming Night Talk and asks an awkward question about it. The detailed reason for voting ME comes across forced. The two votes on ME are rather weak and that is much stronger information to go on at this point. Iso calling out Antny/Hunger/Hawk in Post 120 seems legit since Antny is avoiding meaningful interactions with them at this point in the game.

    Post 160: Bur confirms that he wasn't looking for full reveal. This point even further that Hunger took the information to far.

    Post 163: Hawk begins to discredit DCIII for having four scummy people in his list. Iso did the same thing, but hawk did not question Iso on this.

    Post 164: Hunger uses cop outs more than anything else with his answers. The “Townslip” is complete BS. Bigger note is that Hunger does not interact with either hawk or Antny.

    Post 174: Makes me feel better about ika. I'm hesitamt to call him Town though based on the meta read.

    Post 176: Kami votes for ika. Noted for the fact that Kami flipped Town.

    Post 187: Hawk's response does not settle well with me. Assuming I am Town and reading my as Town are two different things all together. Claims he is not looking for a reason to vote me.

    Post 192: Either Hunger is being dense on purpose or he's not trying to read into the reasons why. I may be barning some people, but that's because they saw what I did when I asked questions about Kami. My reason for voting Hunger should have been obvious as a couple others did notice.

    Post 201: If hawk likes to figure out who Town is first and work with them to find scum, then why did hawk come into this game voting Bur on his second post? That's not looking for Town like hawk claims he was doing.

    Post 221: hawk asks Antny for thoughts on players from Unreal Tournament. The question reads as a disconnect/force since there has been minimal interaction with the two at this point. This makes me believe that hawk is trying hard to communicate with a Scumbuddy.

    Post 215: Votecount comes in at a good time. Hunger being the sole player not voting give me a stronger Scum read on him if not stronger, then solidifying my Scum read on him. The VC analysis also points to hawk, Antny, Rhand and Citric being possible Scum as well.

    Post 263: Antny asks hawk a question that does not match up to what hawk was pointing out. What needs to be explained? I'm liking the hawk/Antny Scumbuddy idea. The question to Iso about the role concern does not mesh with what Iso was getting at. I don't see the need to point out that hawk engaged Antny in this post. That reads very forced and makes me believe that either one flips Scum, then the Mafia may have Day Talk. Antny leaves the window open to vote hawk since the read is not solid. Calls out Citric for not Scumhunting, but in the quoted post Citric is Scumhunting with the question about his vote to ika. Last I checked that helps gather reads on other players. Gives thoughts on hawk claiming to have liked the post, but is feeling hawk is town? That goes against what Antny was saying earlier in the post.

    Post 281: Antny votes hawk. Had to wait for the right time to do it? But it was post 279 that made Antny vote hawk. What about the rest of his posting? More weird interactions from from these two.

    Post 286: Hunger votes for confirmed Townie Kami without reason.

    Post 288: If anyone votes for DCIII they are most likely to be Scum. There is no way that DCIII is Scum this game.

    Post 289: Antny accepts hawk reasoning of a typo/cell phone glitch, but still finds it Scummy. Vote remains on hawk and Antny feels content about when talking to Iso. This is a major switch in gears from what Antny was saying 26 posts earlier. Indecisive to conviction to uncertainty.

    Post 297: hawk thinks DCIII is Scum which means hawk is Scum. Mentions a Policy Lynch when there is no need to. Follows up with a vote on Iso in Post 299. Not sure where that vote came from. I don't see anything said about Iso in his most recent previous posts.

    Post 300: Antny is now guns blazing with a lynch on hawk. Behavior is all over the place here in regards to hawk.

    Post 302/303: ika buddies up to hawk. If one of hawk/hunger/antny flip Town, then ika is a 4th possiblity.

    Post 308: Votecount! Hunger is now voting confirmed Town Kami with confirmed Town Iso as the lead. Great place for Scum to be there. Antny is also in a good position to be Scum on the hawk wagon. More so with the weird behavior exhibited between the two. Not much to say about Hawk being on the Iso wagon that I haven't already said. Non entities this game are Bur, Rhand and ME/Seppel. I'm still town reading Bur at this point. ME/Seppel and Rhand could be Scum, but I am not seeing/feeling based on the current play of others. Citric is another Scum possibility. His vote on Rhand doesn't make sense and his vote on hawk in Post 311 is weak.

    Post 314: Seppel votes for Bur...

    Lots of useless posts. Seppel being... well Seppel. At least he is actively trying to figure the game out even if hes not reading the first part of the game. Iso's frustration...

    Post 350: Hawk switches gears from Iso to Citric. Citric's follow up in Post 353 is awful. Seppel votes Citric in the following post.

    Post 355: Hunger is now okay with lynching hawk as well, but keeps his vote on a confirmed townie. To me that indicates that Hunger does believe that hawk Scum slipped earlier. That would mean that hawk is the better case here.

    Post 357: Iso claims Seppel/Hawk/Arch as the Scum team as his “final answser”. Arch is confirmed Town and I am town reading Seppel for actively trying to solve the game.

    Post 360: hawk says there is no point in talking to Scum, but has been talking to everyone else in the game that he has believed to be Scum at one point or another. BS excuse.

    Post 369: Hawk thought I was Town. Hasn't said anything about me for some time and is now considering me Scum despite his earlier comment that it's better to “assume” I am Town since my Scum game sucks.

    Post 377: Bur is Town and I feel a lot better about ika. Ika leaning town.

    I'm not liking the push from ika on Iso. Taking the earlier interactions though I just see this as ika having blinders on.

    Post 393: Votecount: 5 players on hawk. Antny and Citric are the only stand outs for being Scum. Rhand and hawk are on the Iso wagon with 2 others, ika and kami. Rhand has been very inactive, could be lurking Scum, but that will come out in the wash if others are not Scum. Hunger is the lone vote on confirmed Town kami. Bur and Seppel are also lone votes, but both are Town based on play this game. I'm looking at Antny, Hunger, Gawk and Citric for the primary Scum possiblities. Rhand is a distant fifth if any of those flip Town.

    Post 402/403: I call out Hawk for not giving us proper reads and I receive a cop out answer instead which is also a blatant lie as hawk has voted for a couple players without reason.

    Post 409: hawk calls for a Rhand lynch because Rhand is V/LA. Bad attempt to get the pressure off of him.

    Post 417: hawk has a conflicting read on Iso, but had no issue blindly following others onto the Iso wagon earlier in the game.

    Post 429: Gold mine for when hawk flips Scum.

    Post 498: Hawk has a Town read on Hunger.

    Post 506: Hunger resurfaces and begins drilling hawk. Hunger solely focuses on hawk, ika and Citric despite many other posts/interactions that should have been commented on. Hunger is at a point of having a major disconnect from this game.

    Post 510: Hawk solidifies his Town read on Hunger

    Post 522: Votecount: The only notable changes are that Seppel and haek are now voting Kami. Scum reads don't change here.

    Post 534: Iso claims that kami is Town, then hawk is Scum.

    Post 539: I'm no longer seeing anything between ika and Citric. Not sure what I was seeing now. Citric and hawk could be Scum buddies, but I'm looking more at hawk/Antny/Hunger at this point. Citric as a 4th and Rhand as a distant 5th for his V/LA status for the majority of the game.

    Post 541: Citric votes obvious Town DCIII.

    Post 542: I agree with Seppel and that votecount being the most important.

    Post 547: Antny is 10 pages behind (250 posts) and we get minimal for analysis. Calls out a hawk/Citric/Seppel scum team being very bussy. But that doesn't make sense with Seppel believing that hawk is Town.

    Post 577: Rhand has DCIII leaning Scum and a Town read on Hawk.

    Post 600: This where the game turns into a spam fest of who is willing to lynch who and what not.

    Post 679: Rhand and DCIII are not Scum together. If one flips Scum, then the other is Town.

    Post 683: Antny's best post of the game thus far. Still believe that Antny is Scum though.

    So much uselss posting. The Day drags on and on and on.

    Post 845: Another t/s list from hawk. Good for when hawk flips Scum.

    Post 924: I'm with ika on wanting to lynch Hunger.

    Post 944: Ika, I'm not sure why Iso was the NK. Most of the game was Iso screwing around and being frustrated with you. His reads kept changing with exception to myself, Kami and Hawk. At this point, I am willing to lynch either hawk or Hunger. Both are likely to be Scum at this point.

    Post 946: hawk is now calling me Scum, again, even though his earlier post said he was Town reading me because of Iso and Rhand. Hawk is Scum.

    Post 963: This post does nothing to sway my read on Hunger.

    Post 1003: @Seppel: Cathedral grimore is there.

    Post 1023: I'm Town. Good to see you finally see Hunger as Scum. Hawk and Antny are also Scum. Likely Scum with Citric being a fourth and Rhand or DCIII as a distant 5th still.

    Post 1062: Over compensation? I got disconnected from the game and needed to get myself reinvolved in the game. I have now done so. If you still believe me to be Scum, then so be it.

    I submitted my search at the start of Day 2 prior to discussion. I searched Sanctum due to my Role PM.

    Town
    Bur
    Seppel
    ika

    Depends on flip
    DCIII (If Town, then Rhand is Scum)
    Rhand (If Town, then DCIII is Scum)

    Scum
    Antny
    Hunger
    Hawk
    Citric

    Vote: Hunger
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  • posted a message on GreyCorp®s' Interplanar Adventures
    Exploring Downtown is what Dante will do. More exploits for his crossbow comes to mind. That and more medical supplies.

    I need to check pronouns more often... Frown
    Posted in: the Speakeasy
  • posted a message on Iji Mafia 2: With a Vengeance - Game Over - Alpha Strike (Mafia Win)
    I've been working 12 hour shifts for the last few days and will continue to do so until Friday, my day off. I will answer all questions then.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Vagrant Story Mafia: Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead [Town Victory!]
    I've been working 12 hour shifts for the last few days and will continue to do so until Friday, my day off. I will answer all questions then and give the game a full reread. Sorry for the inactivity.
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  • posted a message on GreyCorp®s' Interplanar Adventures
    Not sure what you're talking about. Uhh
    Posted in: the Speakeasy
  • posted a message on GreyCorp®s' Interplanar Adventures
    Dante: I'm only curious as to why Tree has this memory issue. It makes me think that if her memory is restored that something will occur. Now what could occur has a lot of possibles. I'm thinking along the lines that Tree may have hidden abilities that could be obtained by remembering his past. A medium would help in this process... ... ... I'm hungry.

    Dante turns on his heels and departs to get some food and drink.
    Posted in: the Speakeasy
  • posted a message on Vagrant Story Mafia: Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead [Town Victory!]
    Quote from DCIII »
    Void - what changed between thinking that Citric was busing Hawk to preferring to lynch Kami over Hawk? Why were you willing to lynch Kami but not Hawk?


    I don't see Citric and Hawk being Scum together based on their interactions. I saw something yesterDay between Citric and ika that has me believing that they were wanting the hawk lynch to happen while remaining on the sidelines. For this reason I am not willing to lynch in hawk until unless Citric comes first.

    Kami was scummy on his own. A lot of his play was sub par and used cop outs when questioned about his play.

    Quote from Rhand »
    And shouldn't we force scummy players to search in locations that might hold the towniest player's Grimoires?


    How would anyone in this game know where the towniest players Grimores would be? Your question reads as flavor gaming at best.

    Quote from ika42 »
    the NK: it was on ISO (someone who i suspected for a while)
    -FMPOV, the kill is just a "kill strong player" which tells me that the scum team is probably mediocre at best, i have been reading this thread with a fine eye and there were/are plenty of better shots that could of been made


    Why are you bringing this horrible WIFOM into this game?

    Quote from ika42 »

    6. CitricBase - was considering town but now i have to rethink with current posts i want citus to talk to me more about his thoughs and ideas and everything


    When did your read on Citric become Town? I recall yeterDay that you were calling Citric out for his Scum meta...
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  • posted a message on Vagrant Story Mafia: Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead [Town Victory!]
    Good to know that you are paying attention my game, Seppel.
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