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    posted a message on Decsent of the Dragons (Twitter)
    Quote from Jivanmukta »
    I see. When red gets a card outlandishly out of pie it is ok, but when blue gets an effect that has always been within color pie the forums implode.

    Did someone seriously cite Cinder Cloud and Fissure as a precedent? This place makes no sense.


    Yes. I did. As part of precedence. Not because we can refer to all of the old cards, but that it has been something that is in red's piece of the color pie but does not happen very often. And it has even happened frequently.

    I don't believe this to be an offense of the color pie, this is simply a demonstration of a rare piece that red has access to. Polymorphing isn't strictly blue, red has and will continue to "transform" creatures in its' own right.

    I know you are very protective of your color pie, but red has this and has had it. The only thing that would make anyone raise an eyebrow is if/that it can target opponents' creatures. But, even if it could, it still has happened and should continue to.

    Red has the most limited piece of the color pie, it needs effects like this at higher rarities, otherwise, what card do you make? Another dragon?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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    posted a message on Blood Chin Fanatic
    Quote from Pirotase »
    Creature: Orcs/Warrior
    1B: Sacrifice another warrior, target player lost X life and you gain X life, Where X is the Sacrificed warrior's power


    This gives a lot more range than people expect. It is good against control and aggro alike.

    I can see this being a pain to deal with especially since Bloodsoaked Champion is a thing.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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    posted a message on March through May FNM Promos!
    Quote from chucker1234 »
    ppls will want the beastmasters for green edh decks.


    I don't. Ever. Would rather have any number of the following cards: Garruk's Packleader, Heartwood Storyteller, Elvish Visionary, Lifeblood Hydra, Magus of the Library, Primordial Sage, Regal Force, Soul of the Harvest, or Wall of Blossoms.

    Assuming you are always running the biggest fatties in EDH is a pretty bad idea. The only deck I *MIGHT* run it in would be Doran, but even then, I have access to black, so why would I want to use that to draw on my upkeep as opposed to Phyrexian Arena? Card is just bad. It can see limited usage in standard and maybe for a budget EDH deck that doesn't know what good cards are. The only application I see is sideboard tech vs control.
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    posted a message on March through May FNM Promos!
    Quote from Specter404 »
    Beastmaster is also a fine casual card with a range of EDH applications.


    I can't think of any EDH deck of mine that I would want a 3 CMC 2/1 that conditionally draws a card on my upkeep. There are so many better options.
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    posted a message on Best commander for anti-meta control? Is it R/x?
    Quote from Jukai »
    Quote from apocalypse31 »
    I have said it before and will say it again, Gaddock Teeg. Shuts down opponents things while working with your things. Best deck you can build to stop all of the other powerful decks in your meta.


    A well-built Captain Sisay deck also applies. Toolbox decks are amongst some of the best decks vs. control/midrange decks. Also, I would run Wheel of Sun and Moon over Rest in Peace. Invokes less hate from the whole table, and doesn't screw yourself over.


    Agreed, and likely run both (RIP and Wheel). More chance to draw one, and the reason I suggest RIP is the usefulness with Helm of Obedience. That way, you can combo off and win while shutting an opponent down.

    A well built Sisay deck is just silly good (I actually suggested it last page). One of my buddies runs a stax edition of it, very consistent and has answers to each deck built in, just tutors them out and wins from there. It being a stax deck, it is also naturally resistant to other stax decks. Sisay definitely works here.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
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    posted a message on Best commander for anti-meta control? Is it R/x?
    Quote from Lonk »
    Both Teeg and Druid run no shortage of counters. I can't imagine Hermit Druid is going to win through a turn two Suppression Field or Cursed Totem or Rest in Peace without having a nature's claim, or similar answer in hand, it absolutely needs that answer in hand, because Teeg's next play is only going to solidify the wall of hate. To suggest that Teeg can't pose a significant threat to Hermit Druid because of Druid's ease of finding answers is problematic, because it ignores the fact that you can't win through those cards, which means they are far from harmless. And as much as both of these decks love toolboxing, Teeg has more room for the situational hate, and his situational hate is stronger, even if most of it (but not all of it, Containment Priest) has to be played at sorcery speed.

    The key for the Teeg player is to keep things cheap (under 3 cmc when possible), build for redundancy, and learn what cards best shutdown which decks. Sharuum can't combo off through Torpor Orb or Hushwing Gryff, and will likely fold to Kataki, War's Wage. Peacekeeper, and Martyr's Cause break voltron lists in half even through hexproof, Suppression Field/Cursed Totem/Linvala stop Azami, Lady of Scrolls in her tracks, Winter Orb and Hokori, Dust Drinker (and Teeg himself) kill control decks dead. The rest of the board will often thank you for dealing with what they perceive as an emminent threat (unless you played Teeg/Hokori/Winter Orb/Torpor Orb, then they'll hate you). Once you untap with hate, protect it. Tutoring for Sylvan Safekeeper, Saffi Eriksdotter, and Sterling Grove after a Suppression Field or Peacekeeper + Teeg causes plays to scoop on the spot.

    Winning can be a bit of a challenge. I like Altar of Dementia, but have also done variants of survival lark, and alpha swings with Mirror Entity. You'll figure something out.


    Please read this.

    Bear in mind, you also run things like Survival of the Fittest, Fauna Shaman, and other creature tutors.

    Your prerogative, but this is your best option.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
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    posted a message on Mothership Spoilers for Fate Reforged (01/08/15)
    Quote from rujasu »
    Quote from Shodai »
    Don't really get Ghastly Conscription. It's clearly meant to be for multiplayer but wouldn't you just rather have Rise of the Dark Realms? Instead of a bunch of 2/2s which unmorphing that would be even more mana intensive than the extra 2 cost for RoftDR?


    Huge difference between 7 mana and 9, even in EDH. 9 mana is just an astronomical cost, very difficult to hit without a good control/ramp strategy.


    But ETB triggers are a big deal. You get none with this.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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    posted a message on Best commander for anti-meta control? Is it R/x?
    He is playing multiplayer EDH, not 1v1. He needs something to beat multiple competitive players.

    I am genuinely confused, however, as to your reasoning behind this adament denial that you can build a Teeg list able to combat Hermit Druid. I am not looking for your opinion on the matter, I have done it, it does work and it can also be effective against other decks in the meta. Whether or not you believe it is or isn't is irrelevant to me, I know for a fact it is because I have played against it.

    You are assuming that the Hermit Druid is perfectly built (almost always is) and that Gaddock Teeg durdles until turn 3-4 to drop hate cards. Not even close to the case. The deck begins lockout as early as turn 3 and by its' nature shuts down some answers to the threats (not all, but some). To believe it doesn't stand a chance is ignorant and proves to me that you have never played with or against the deck.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
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