Aye, usually mail is slower due to the higher volume of mail during Christmas time. Trades atm for me are taking 2-3 days longer to receive/to be received.
^ Reveillark + Recurring Nightmare provides interesting interactions in the scope of ETB effects of other creatures. But I do like the idea of using Innocent Blood over StP.
Looked over the deck, and I gotta say, I'm loving the variance in options and synergy. Are there any other cards anyone thinks would work besides the ones listed?
If you're going to buy Graveborn, its either:
A. You want it for your collection
B. You plan to use a majority of cards for other decks (EDH Pimp, casual/competitive decks, etc)
C. A present to someone else who wants it
Don't buy it in the hopes of trading the contents for old duals/legacy staples. Maybe a handful of people will succeed in that regard but they already knew that they were going to be capable of succeeding in that regard, but remember that's just a handful of people.
Well, just because we don't need to use Emrakul to shuffle our library into our deck anymore doesn't mean that it is ineffective against our opponent. They can still deck us.
@Barl - You're true to some extent, if the meta is combo filled, Enchantress isn't the deck to play at all. But if theres only a handful of combo decks being played, then i fail to see the merit of laying down and forfeiting/losing to that sporadic matchup = / But you've given an option that's worth exploring; I haven't dedicated optimal SB slots towards combo and I think I'll do that.
And with Snapcaster Mage running around, I think it might be worth using Ground Seal as well.
@coandco - Hmm hold on, Prismatic Omen against Hive Mind would be pretty neat actually imo. We can pay the blue (provided, ya know, we have 5+ lands in play). Thoughts? And thoughts anyone?
@spatula - From my perspective of your list, it seems you want enchantress to go faster by cutting out certain win conditions, some silver bullets and throwing in GSZ to get argothians on the board faster. If I'm right/partially right, it seems like a bum rush to me = / Getting your engine out as early as possible is vital and the right state of mind; having said that however, my take on enchantress is that we don't go about it by rushing it out carelessly and with little to no protection via other bullets and making the latter turns, which only make enchantress more golden than most other decks, not matter. You make it seem that if enchantress isn't stabilized by turn 6, then we auto lose. That, to me personally, shouldn't be the case. That version of a precipice shouldn't exist for us. It's similar to someone going down without giving their all = /
To me, one of our other main goals, besides getting our engine out as fast as possible but properly, is to make our opponent slow down, and more often than not, considerably slow down.
if possible, get into a tournament or 2 and use that build. Don't take our statements as an attack towards you, although we've danced around that line somewhat already Ultimately, we're not here to badger you on your choices for how to run your enchantress deck, no matter how it's looked like so far. That's not our goal. Our goal is to assess the potential for your build through constructive criticism and to draw solid and viable points out of you as to why you use the cards you use with some form of evidence. To me, I still haven't been convinced about your arguments. While it isn't going to be a certified piece of evidence, we all work with the honesty system here and tournament reports posted by other people here have shown how their specific builds have stood up, what worked/didnt work, etc. and with no bias in the scope of how their matchups went (i.e. every single one was a win with a subpar explanation as to how the win(s) were achieved). I hope you do get into a couple of tournaments to try this build out and let us know how it worked out/what has/has not worked out for you both in the MB and SB. I'm eager to hear any and all takes on enchantress, whether I'll like them or not So, for me personally, I await your report should you want to post it here.
@Barl, Spatula - Clearly, from the previous pages, Emrakul works for those of us that use him. Those that don't use him also happen to not have problems. Emrakul's neutral and he fits, what he lacks in synergy makes up as an uncounterable win condition. Can't say the same for his partners Ulamog and Kozilek or their little brothers (just stating for effect, really no reason to use his partners lol ) but regardless, mana production with this deck isn't a problem. Maybe some of us don't want to experience getting our creatures wiped from the board (argothians included) or we can't seem to have the mana out to pay into words of war at certain points of the game (especially with a suppression field in play). Emrakul's our surefire win con. In either case, as Woody said it best: "No one is getting replaced".
In all honesty, I think our discussions should be pointed towards decks that are a big problem for us.
What can we use to mitigate our disadvantage from combo decks such as ANT and Hive Mind (especially Hive Mind)?
What has worked for people and what hasn't in terms of this issue? Specific examples would be favorable in explanations.
@Spatula - Mind posting your list here? I'm curious to see how you fit in GSZ's
@spatula - I'm inclined to side with Coandco and Ertai on this one. For me, Emrakul's a utility card as well, but more often than not, he comes up as a more favorable win condition in a majority of my games taking into account other things into consideration such as board position, opponent's hand-size, etc.
A. You want it for your collection
B. You plan to use a majority of cards for other decks (EDH Pimp, casual/competitive decks, etc)
C. A present to someone else who wants it
Don't buy it in the hopes of trading the contents for old duals/legacy staples. Maybe a handful of people will succeed in that regard but they already knew that they were going to be capable of succeeding in that regard, but remember that's just a handful of people.
1x Grimgrin
1x Bloodline Keeper
1x Moldgraf Monstrosity (foil)
While the pulls were decent, never really had 2 rares and a mythic come from a pack before. Found it quite amusing
And with Snapcaster Mage running around, I think it might be worth using Ground Seal as well.
To me, one of our other main goals, besides getting our engine out as fast as possible but properly, is to make our opponent slow down, and more often than not, considerably slow down.
if possible, get into a tournament or 2 and use that build. Don't take our statements as an attack towards you, although we've danced around that line somewhat already
In all honesty, I think our discussions should be pointed towards decks that are a big problem for us.
What can we use to mitigate our disadvantage from combo decks such as ANT and Hive Mind (especially Hive Mind)?
What has worked for people and what hasn't in terms of this issue? Specific examples would be favorable in explanations.
@Spatula - Mind posting your list here? I'm curious to see how you fit in GSZ's
-pdx