MTG Salvation

Quote from asw122

That's almost definitely never gonna happen. Why would they do that and kill off a chunk of their revenue? WotC make a lot more if I need to get 4 DRS in paper and 4 in digital than they do if I can just buy 4 DRS in paper and scan a code. Plus for it to make sense, each code would have to be unique, which would hit the issue of trading. I open a DRS in paper, scan the code then trade it to you. You go to scan it into your MTGO and it doesn't work because I've already used it.

And those are just top of my head issues.

Yeah I know something like it is never likely to happen, but still I know a considerable amount of people that don't play on modo just because they don't want to buy two seperate collections. Wizards would get more money out of me for tournament entry fees than I ever spend online right now. Also, if the card had a unique code they could set it up so it gets traded into the new owner's account when they scan it. Still just a pipe dream though.

If only they could have made the hologram something you scan to get the card on modo too.

The moment I consider a $130 card worth it is the moment I'm quitting magic. I could see it maybe being worth it if you're a competitive grinder, but I'm not, and most players aren't.

Quote from Tormod

From what I know there is 1 US Legacy GP and 1 Euro Legacy GP each year

Would be nice if they added Canada to the mix!

The thing I don't like about the turn 4 rule is how loose they are with it. There are decks that can win turn 2 right now and can fairly consistently win turn 3. I'm thinking infect and elemetal combo. So what is the rule? Is it decks can't win before turn 4? Or is it decks can win before turn 4 as long as there are common ways to interact with them?

It's really in their best interest to reprint and drive prices down at least a little bit. It's more beneficial to the stores that hold tournaments, which are the stores wizards should be catering too. Because they are the ones that sell the sealed product and keep people playing by providing a place to actually play. Even if these stores sell singles and the value of those singles drop, they're still making money by selling all the special product that these reprints are coming in. So it mostly ends up hurting the online sellers and collectors/speculators, but for the most part they're not the ones that are really helping magic grow.

Quote from Adryan

I'm a student and i had to work 3 months to afford the Rest of my Team America Deck (~1500 $).

This was hard work and i would be very angry if the reserved list would be abolished.

I think Wotc should make the Collectors Edition dual lands tournament legal or allow only 5 proxies of dual lands in the 75.

People are spending 1000 $ to build Jund in modern. I cannot understand this. Maybe People prefer a less skill intensive environment.

Nevertheless i can't understand the complain about legacy prices. Get a Job, Save some money, and when you stop liking your Hobby get ~80 % of your Money back... Sounds great

I really don't think that wizards would reprint in a fashion that would drop prices enough to worry about if they did abolish the reserve list. It would most likely be limited runs of the expensive staples, there'd be a few more around for trading and they'd take an initial hit in price, but it'd only be a matter of time until they'd be back up to the same price.

Both snow and artifact duals would help cards/decks that aren't tier 1 so I'm okay with that actually.

As for reprinting, I have to say it's annoying when people try to speak for entire groups of players. I'm an old player and am in favor of reprinting. I'm not going to assume all people playing the game since the early 90's and have their playsets of staples feel the same way I do. So don't try to speak for me and I won't speak for you. Hell I've probably lost more value from power creep than from reprints over the years.

Spreading Seas, Negate for Karn and Pithing Needle for Karn/Eye of Ugin are good SB cards. Hold your counters for the wincons (Karn, Wurmcoil), that should do it (of course, if they go T3 Karn and you have nothing, you lost).

Quote from SirBruce

Redo your spreadsheet with real prices, not assuming depriciation, then you'll find where you went wrong. Also, even the lamest common foil still goes for $0.50; it's just a matter of finding the right buyer.

The prices are real (between Ebay and tcgplayer - no way in hell you get anything higher unless you actually own a store) and I then, at the end, assumed a 80% value on the mythics, 70% value on rares, and 50% value on UCs due to, in various cases: old ones fetching a higher price than the new ones (Goyf, Bob, other new art cases), a much higher supply on the card than is currently available (EDH rares like Doubling Season and Divinity of Pride, short print runs like Mirrodin Rares, and the uncommons having a sizable print run - roughly an extra playset+ of each per case), or just random price shocks.

If you want a better spreadsheet, make it yourself. I stand behind these values for the average person (like me) being able to fetch for the cards.

Quote from 57messier

Wont the foils be much easier to obtain since you get one every pack?

So instead of a 1 foil rare per box we will be average 24*7/36 ~ 4.66 Foil Rares

likewise instead of .16 Foil Mythics per box we will average 24*7/216 = .77 Foil Mythics per box

No, this accounts for that. Think about it like this - with this set, if the foil sheet has the same rarity allocation, 15 packs will contain, on average: 9 foil commons, 3 foil Uncommons, and 1/8th of a foil mythic and 7/8ths of a foil rare. That's where my 1 foil mythic/case and 7 foil rares/case comes from (its actually 1 foil mythic per 120 packs and 1 foil rare per ~17 packs).

Quote from Mikeageddon

I guess I'm a little biased because I love to draft, I just didn't realize there was that many people that dislike draft out there. It'd probably be fair if the stores doing draft only for selling the packs would let people come and either choose to draft or buy the same amount of packs they would get if they drafted and not play. That gives everyone a chance to get them at least without ruining drafting for anyone (even though people will be rare pulling like crazy anyways), and it doesn't waste the peoples time who dislike drafting.

Yo can't netdeck in limited so that will instantly lead to a lot of people claiming limited sucks