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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    There also is no reason not to. I'm not saying we need to finish it today or tomorrow, but letting this drag for the whole deadline would be a waste of all our time and energy. Let people do their dives and post analysis if they want, but unless we're going to change targets dragging this on is a waste because getting two flips always changes things and makes these rereads easier.

    There is basically a zero percent chance I vote anyone else today based on anything but hard mechanical evidence.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Quote from Highroller »
    That's what I thought. So does CropCircles claiming friendly neighbor mean he's a neighbor targeted by a neighborizer?

    Or is it totally unrelated to that, and "Friendly Neighbor" is referring to the give-someone-else-inspection thing?

    Despite the naming similarities the two roles aren't linked in any way.

    Friendly neighbor is a night action, single target, innocent child (alignment reveal). A neighborizer is a chat maker.
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  • posted a message on Sign-ups: Realm of the Elderlings Mafia
    Realm of the Elderlings Mafia
    A specialty game for 18 Players
    Reviewed (and reimagined) by D_V and Osieorb18

    This, more than anything else, is what I have never understood about your people. You can roll a dice, and understand that the whole game may hinge on one turn of a die. You deal out cards, and say that all a man's fortune for the night may turn upon one hand. But a man's whole life, you sniff at, and say, what, this nought of a human, this fisherman, this carpenter, this thief, this cook, why, what can they do in the great wide world? And so you putter and sputter your lives away, like candles burning in a draught.

    This is a flavorful game which will contain spoilers for the Realm of the Elderlings novels by Robin Hobb.

    Game Specific Rules
    Vitality: Vitality is a player's life force. If a player reaches 0 Vitality (abbreviated as 0V) they will die. There are several abilities including the Night Kill that may cause vitality gains and losses. Vitality gains will be processed before losses if both abilities have the same priority. Vitality payments are an exception and are resolved at the highest priority.

    The Skill: The Skill is an addictive and hereditary magic. All players have the anytime ability The Skill, unless their role states otherwise. A player with The Skill may use The Skill by paying any amount of Vitality to open a one-way private chat with another player for a number of phases equal to the Vitality spent, for example a player with 4V would be able to create a one way chat on day 1 that lasts until the end of day 2 by paying 3V. This ability may be used at any time. Each player may only open one chat at a time this way unless their role states otherwise. The Skill may be used in addition to any other actions.

    Robin Hobb - Town Author

    Home is people, not a place.

    You are Robin Hobb, writer of these wonderful tales, making this game possible.

    You start with 1 Vitality.

    Writing: Night Action - You may spend 1V to begin the game.
    You win when all threats to town are eliminated.

    General Rules:
    1. Be good to each other. Follow all the forum rules, but mostly be good to each other and we'll all be just fine.
    2. Play to the spirit of the game. Don't try to circumvent the hidden information. It's supposed to be a game of hidden information. Don't try to get around that, whether by copying your PM, editing posts, or other nefarious means. The game doesn't work if you bypass the fact that some information is supposed to be hidden.
    3. Please try to be active and post. I will be requiring at least one substantive post every 48 hours and more is vastly preferred. I will accept standing absences over weekends if notified in advance. And I will aim to not have any deadlines fall on the weekend.
    4. If you have a problem with another player's behavior or a question about a ruling please message me. I will answer within no more than 10 hours.
    5. I reserve the right to punish as I see fit for breaking any of these rules.
    6. Have fun!

    Mafia is a game of uninformed majority versus and informed minority.
    The villagers (uninformed majority) are trying to eliminate all the enemies from their midst. The mafia are trying to tie or outnumber the town.
    Day phases are made up of voting for players to "condemn" (remove from the game and learn the alignment of that player). In this game a player is condemned when a majority of players (with 12 alive this would be 7) vote for 1 player. That ends the day phase immediately and begins a twilight phase until the mod (myself!) is able to reveal that players alignment and start the night phase.

    During the night phase the mafia team is able to kill 1 player of their choosing and any players with abilities may use them.

    This process repeats till all threats to the town are dead or the town has lost control of the vote to the mafia.

    Battling Fate (/in) (0/18)
    1.

    Dreaming of Dragons (/replace)
    Lost in the Skill River (/Spectate)
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    I object until everyone checks in for the day

    Everyone has checked in for the day now. No one yet has offered a defense of CC that's compelling. HR is the only person left who hasn't taken a stance. I'm happy to let him post his thoughts, but once he does what exactly are we waiting for?
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Quote from Highroller »
    Sorry, rereading the thread.

    I just need a clarification on something: CropCircles, what is your role and who did you target last night, again?

    The role as claimed is a multi shot reveal their alignment to target player at night and they claimed to target Silver.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    I'm really very uninterested in dragging this day out. If anyone has objections to condemning CC now is the time to make them because if not we should move forward to avoid dragging this out and demotivating people.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Ok

    1) I just got a discord note saying that a roleblocked player would be notified. That means either CC or Silver are lying or there is a role like commuter or something that just causes targets to miss. We could be in trouble if we go straight into this incorrectly being a thunderdome.

    2) CC's target of Silver kind of tracks, he town read Silver Day 1.

    More to come.

    FWIW I checked Commuter and Ascetic and it would still tell CC that it failed. Basically he's caught scum now.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Why is this the first post of the day? Why did roleblocking become the focus of our attention since the very first post of the day?

    Plug this into your calculator...

    Concerted effort between CC, Vaimes and Silver to bus CC and gain town points?

    Walk me through this plan then. Because I think there might be some sort of game afoot but this particular iteration makes no sense to me. Anyway haven't I been the person most focused on the RB issue?
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Obviously it's all speculation without a mass claim but when I see a role like the one CC claimed I expect the scum team to have a strong manipulative role or town to be very lacking in power. Which could very well be the case but it's not obvious that it is.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Quote from cayvie »


    idgi, do all games have roleblockers here? why is the lack of roleblocking notable

    Not all games have roleblockers but usually roles are designed to have counterplay with each other and the most obvious counterplay to a friendly neighbor is a blocking role to prevent that player from claiming and then clearing themselves immeadiately.

    Having uncounter-able confirmed town players makes the game very difficult for scum.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Quote from Ampharos »
    yknow, maybe CC didn't realize that roleblocked players would be notified

    would explain a lot

    This seems quite plausible.

    So let's talk about town reads. I have strong town reads on Vaimes, Highroller, and prior to the mess today Silver. I am leaning town on Ampharos and Axel but don't have confidence in either yet.

    That leaves me with Proph, Cayvie, Terry, and CC. CC's claim today puts Silver back in the pool but at a relatively low priority. CC is almost certainly scum and I'm maintaining a strong scum read on Cayvie. I guess that's enough to try to build some worlds.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    I'm trying to do some digging with hypotheticals to the mods to see if there is a possibility, but the odds are vanishingly small. So I'm inclined to think that CC is just scum here. Occam's razor et al.

    T/T isn't impossible here but it's unlikely.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    @Silver while it's wine I'm one of those annoying players who keeps accidentally bussing their partners with no end goal in mind. Like Wisp used to do before he improved as scum.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Quote from cayvie »


    i mean my immediate instinct is that this means some of the claimed PRs are scum

    This sticks out to me. Cayvie is almost never getting condemned toDay, but even if some of the claimed PR's are scum the lack of RB'ing is definitely notable. Probably even more notable.

    @Silver when did you decide that Terry was town? I feel like I've missed something there.
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  • posted a message on Snow White Mafia - Day 2 - Dopey ditched dinner
    Could be Amy/CC/Grapefruit, no bussing involved

    Just sayin'

    I mean that would be possible from your POV but claiming there is no bussing involved is laughable. There would be a lot of bussing involved.
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