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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Quote from Azrael »
    Quote from Grapefruit21 »
    Every time I try to convince myself to read D1 I lose motivation the second I remember we don't have flips.


    Safe assumption they were both town.

    I thought DBS was town before the flip, and still think she likely was, but not having certainty on it makes it harder to feel comfortable drawing conclusions. I really should reread and see where Rhand's head was at though.
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Every time I try to convince myself to read D1 I lose motivation the second I remember we don't have flips.

    @ArchmageEternal What about Dota making a case on you is opportunistic? Ironic sure, but irony isn't scummy. You weren't under any real pressure when Dota made his post.
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Not really convinced a buddy would put themselves out there in any way over that slot, grape. And hasn't really been enough time for resistance anyway.

    He's scummy. Go with it.

    I'm already voting Dota (via Nancy) just wanted to point it out. It's happening very easily right now, but it still feels right.
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    I'm of two minds regarding Dota. First is as everyone else has mentioned that level of lazer focus in a first post is eyebrow raising to say the least even if it is displaying solid effort. It makes no attempt to look at the game as a whole, comment on who died or anything really. That said there is like 0 opposition to this lynch right now. And I'm not convinced this was such a scummy post that the only reaction to it would be to bus. I mean maybe town just turned on it en mas very quickly (and the people poking at it are generally my town reads (Rod, Kazin, and Tom), but it feels like if Dota was scum someone would be trying to defend him and talk about it as a post showing game solving intent. The closest thing to that is Shadow poking at the specific idea that AE used to counter vote it (that Nancy not participating makes the argument invalid coming from Dota(Which is an awful counter argument)).

    Anyway I don't want to rush this wagon on Dota, it feels right but AE also looks pretty suspect right now.

    Also Rod is probably even more townie for this page. I love him calling out Dota for the town read based on tone from a gimmick game and think his progression here looks really natural.

    Also liking shadow unless he's buddies with Dota, but that defense feels much more town trying to stop bad arguments than scum defending a buddy.
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Quote from Rodemy »
    Quote from Grapefruit21 »
    Az what's your character name?

    I can answer that, he claimed the flying dutchman in his first post.

    @Nancy coming back with a naked vote isn't exactly inspiring. Why shadow?


    Why are you answering other peoples questions?


    Because this was a matter of record as opposed to intent. It would be like if someone asked you if anyone had pushed you and I answered DBS had. I know answering questions is a no no, but in that case it's a thing that is on the record in Az's first post.
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Az what's your character name?

    I can answer that, he claimed the flying dutchman in his first post.

    @Nancy coming back with a naked vote isn't exactly inspiring. Why shadow?
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    I took it as reiterating yesterday's read's list and berating us for play he disagreed with (see lynching DBS), but I'm really not sure it matters given he's almost certainly locked in as neutral.

    @Iso @Bur Have you heard from NancyDrew? I feel like her only post in two weeks was apologizing for being away. Is anything happening there?
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Quote from Rodemy »
    Quote from Azrael »
    Mmmm, Rodemy's soul was delicious.


    Kill. Him.

    Grape you said before you had nothing on Nancy. Why the hell did you vote her?

    I explained it in the post. We aren't getting flips so I want to kill people who aren't contributing since I don't have strong scum reads.
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    I hate no flip games so much... Played a no flip game as my second game and it's still on of my least favorite mafia experiences. Between that and Rhand being the NK I'm so over this right now.

    Anyway here's where I'm at:

    Kazin is town. That slip was real.

    I think tom is town. Our reads have felt pretty in sync and he's been pretty transparent and reasonable. Also like him for the way he's handled his PR. Feels like he wants to solve the game so badly that he is struggling to play by his own rules.

    Rod I have as a gut town read. He seems so light and relaxed.

    DV I have as lean town. His EoD was a bit head scratching but I still have liked his play overall since dropping Nobue.

    I have shadow as a light town read. I feel like he's being paranoia read to be as low on lists as he is today. He's not done anything outside his scum meta but I'm also not seeing any red flags.

    Archmage Eternal, NancyDrew, Terry, and KA I've got nothing on. None of them leave any impression on me this game. I think I had opinions about Terry before my hiatus, but I don't anymore. Just a huge blank spot in the game for me.

    Vezok is also kind of a blank spot. I don't have a grasp on his posts but so many people have been adamant in calling him scum that I've picked up the read through osmosis. Need to actually do some reading there.

    Az is Az. He has now missed on two souls (three counting his own) and iirc only needs to miss two more to lose his claimed win con. I'm very comfortable leaving him alive at this point.

    We need to start sorting through the mushy middle and if we're not going to get information we might as well target the people contributing the least.
    Vote: NancyDrew
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  • posted a message on Emperor Mafia - Game Over: The Empire Reigns Eternal - TOWN WIN
    No real thoughts other than this was really fun to read! Made me wish I'd joined
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Quote from Rhand »

    Grape’s vote on me comes out of the blue and is bad. I think almost everyone has voiced their opinion on me townclearing on flavor. Feels like a scum push to me.
    And then dawning’s vote? She has been calling me town tons of times and now votes me because I’m VLA? Makes no sense whatsoever.

    My preferred lynches are Vezok / Grape. Ok with lynching Kami / Nancy / Rodemy. Would add my vote to dawning / AE / Azrael to avoid a no lynch. Not lynching Shadow / tom / terry / DV / Kazin.

    With the most recent votecount in mind,
    vote Nancy

    Why is my vote bad? Just saying it is doesn't make it so. And People have voiced opinions on you flavor clearing. Initially I thought it was townie but between that, your (understandable) desire to policy lynch Nobue, and now your vote on Nancy for wmomentum you haven't shown much in the way of scum hunting or inquisitiveness. You've just been poking at periphery things and reacting to them.

    Quote from Rhand »
    And then dawning’s vote? She has been calling me town tons of times and now votes me because I’m VLA? Makes no sense whatsoever.
    it makes sense in that I'm annoyed. playing the game takes 2nd priority to enjoyment, for me.

    What does that even mean? That you vote against your reads if it makes you "enjoy" the game more?
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    I'm off to bed for the night and I have work tomorrow. I'll try to be active as we're getting close but work's changed and I can't check as much as I used to.
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    I guess it's too late to move people to Rhand then...

    I hate both the top wagons. They feel like lynching different to me. Anyone on DBS explain why she would change her opinion on Az when she did as scum. It made no sense. Look at DV's play he hasn't used his reveal to try and push anything or anyone. He's just using it as meta to defend himself. He's playing frustrated and emotionally in a way that screams indignant town to me.

    Rodemy and Nancy have literally zero compelling me to lynch them.

    Read my post, come lynch Rhand with me.
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    Trying to catch up but the bickering on the last page definitely makes it harder to pay attention.

    I still think DBS is town, but just on a completely different page to everyone else. I don't think scum!DBS reacts to being wrong about Az the way she did.

    I think this is town DV? It reminds me a lot of his play in Overwatch which wasn't town, but was townish because he did have to "solve".

    I haven't liked much Archmage Eternal has done, but I did like him calling out Kazin for a bad town read.

    I've been starting to tinfoil Rhand. He's been busy so there isn't much to look at, but his flavor clear just sticks out to me. It's one thing to recall it because you were in the game, but now in retrospect it feels opportunistic in a gut way I'm having trouble articulating. His big post in 362 passes the sniff test but between the DBS clear and the fact that apart from DV no one is bringing him up as an option today is strange. If this was a game full of MTGS veterans I might buy it happening naturally. But that's not really the case here. Just feels like he should be coming up more than he has.

    Vote: Rhand
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  • posted a message on Pirates Mafia - Day 2 - The Woes of the Sea
    I'm still not caught up at all. Been surprisingly busy. Nancy not checking in at all is worrying. Going to try to scope her out later and see if there are any red flags there. But no promises I've been much busier than expected lately...

    @DBS your argument that town are more likely to have one narrative and scum less likely is not something I agree with at all. And focusing someone for "good" play (scum would have wide focus to try and appear townie) seems counter productive. I agree DV's switch was eyebrow raising, but the supplemental wide focus reasoning is not something I can get behind.
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