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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Yeah but where is the fun in that?

    Preemptive psuedo V/LA: nights and weekends are going to be spotty for me moving forward. I'm moving in a couple weeks and my life is boxes and packing right now.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    @Rhand what? And it's finally a game now. I don't think we've ever gone this long in a game without you scum reading me.

    @tom I'll have to take a look. I remember seeing something about him easing into midrange shots (or along those lines anyway) but I didn't take much away from it.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    I'm trying to decide if it's meaningful. Jack doesn't seem noticeably stronger toDay than D1. The random announcement that he was going to tunnel Umami again was very underwhelming...

    The lack of more day happening before GJ softed is frustrating because there is so little to analyze. Like I can dig a little into Axel actually trying to analyze Tubba's posts as a good look for him but there isn't much of that.

    I think tom's stubborness here that we should solve this another day is probably townie (ignoring the paranoid part of me that thinks he's just trying to buy Tubba a day to fire a night action here).

    Top of head reads:

    Grape
    ZDS/GJ
    Umami/Shadow
    Tom/Last
    Axel
    Rhand/KJ/Sloth/Rod
    Vaimes

    Jack

    Tubba
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Both work as buddies with Tubba. They were both in his middle grouping and he didn't say much about either of them.

    Did you see anything in Jack's tone improving later in D1? Sloth is just present, I don't think I have a read on him at all.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from Killjoy »
    There's no resistance. You're jumping the gun.

    There are three possible scum (two more likely than the third) but you're not even considering other possibilities. My issue isn't that I think he's town, it's that you didn't even look at Shadow. Also his meta isn't that easy to read.

    You're just not... doing the due dilegence and I don't like that.

    Maybe the fact that I did this in catch up made it less obvious but I did consider the possibilities, then I kept reading and I became very confident that Tubba was scum. And his meta isn't that easy, but crumpled wolves tend to look the same. I know because I've been there a few times.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    @Tom if you were king for a day who would you execute? Would not having wagons cahnge the math and make it more profitable for you to kill Tubba?
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    *sigh*

    Roll over

    Anyway @KJ Why aren't you confident? What makes you think that Tubba is town here? Beyond general uncertainty. Like I get tom's stated desire for 3>2 and wanting to go for the high upside play but I'm not following your resistance here.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from Killjoy »
    You're pretty confident in that. Do you know Tubba's meta that well?

    I mean I don't think I can read him from meta alone but I've seen him get run up wrongly enough to know that he doesn't just role over as town. And reading his ISO there is a noticeable change in tone after GJ dunks him. He's also more or less vanished since flavor claiming which isn't inspiring confidence. I'm not expecting mountains of walling and legacy reads but I'd expect sassiness, confidence, and something beyond "I think it’s very unlikely this is a four way town fest."
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from tomsloger »
    i was proud of it
    Jordan on the wizards is clearly iso (the invitational was his last season with the bulls)


    have you caught up on today?
    Im being James harden

    I skimmed everything and read a fair bit of the reaction to GJ's claim. The dueling claims are never t/t and tubba looks so much worse (Shadow would win the WIM either way but town!Tubba would have some sort of personality rather than just being mechanical).

    And you're definitely Harden'ing though I don't know if you meant it the same way I do (theorycrafting the ideal way for GJ to handle it while posting up a storm).


    @KJ I haven't ISO'd shadow because I'm pretty sure it's just Tubba. His everything since GJ's claim is just limp, all of his playfulness is gone (for example using jokey names).
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Ftr i think zds is more <bill walton on the celtics>

    Ohhhh that's a good one. Actually fits his style and is the same archetype.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    And I accidentally deleted my Tubba ISO...

    Fun.

    Anyway the gist of it was he was pushing both Wisp and Umami at one point using the actually gross imagery of "rolling around each other’s mouths". He nakedly voted Rhand at the start of toDay and that's the main things he's done. I'm inclined to town block all of ZDS, Shadow, Umami, Wisp, and GJ if Tubba does flip here.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from tomsloger »

    Grape has added several more. Though he missed the obvious rodemy=dennis rodman

    I thought Rodman but went Sheed for the deeper cut. Plus Rod feels like a ball don't lie type.

    Anyway Imagine I had post the Chickens attacking Link from OoT gif here.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    lololol Anyway clearing the multiquote I had going. Willing to vote Tubba whenever.

    Quote from Rodemy »


    I don't understand your use of the word Tonally. Please explain?

    I think Jack's posts read very differently towards the EoD yesterday. Early on there was a weird passivity (see the oft mentioned tunnel on Umami) while at the EoD he had a bit more agency. It went from a nervous teenager public speaking for the first time to a bad door to door salesperson.

    Also hope your eye gets better soon!
    Quote from tomsloger »
    I guess to clarify:
    Consistency/lack thereof of opinions/logic is unlikely to be AI. Especially depending on player. Like, maybe that would work on zds. But youre gonna have a real bad time looking for consistency in rodemy or me or something.

    Inconsistency between <actions/given thoughts> and <stated reads> is a different matter

    Jack keeps saying hes deep in an umami tunnel but doesnt take any actions that show that. Thats scummy.
    Rodemy changing his read of me from "9 times out of 10" to not serious at all isn't


    I'd grabbed this just because it's true in general but it definitely applies to Tubba here. Claimed to be a JK but didn't think the missing kill was a big deal as Axel noticed.

    Anyway if this clears Shadow and ZDS that is absolutely excellent because I was probably never going to have a really hard time getting there on either of them.

    @ZDS The list comparing everyone to basketball players was really just for Tom, but yours was meant with nothing but respect. An all timer coming back to a slightly different game in a very different circumstance. No real comparison to your style just the circumstances.
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  • posted a message on Resistance - Spies win!
    Rhand has nominated: Rhand, Shadow, Sloth, Umami for mission 4.

    Given that this was over 24 hours ago, and everyone has submitted a vote, I am going to give a further 12 hours for votes to come in/change. Apologies again for the delay.
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  • posted a message on Resistance - Spies win!
    Apologies for the delay.
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