Grape: 1 shot Cloaker
Rhand: VT
Hunt: Bulletproof
Mind: Vanilla cop
Shadow: Flavor Cop
Cyan: No claim? I thought there was a VT claim but couldn't find one in his ISO.
Cantrip: No claim
Quix: No claim
SJT: No claim
Typh: No claim
So the way I'm viewing the game after reading the past 48 hours of posts is this Terry, Quix, and Hunt are all safely town. Cantrip is almost there but I haven't done due diligence to make sure.
Mind/Rhand is a dichotomy. I don't think that's an aggro bus. Leaning heavily towards Mind as scum at this stage.
I think Typh is scum for angleshooty OoG reasons.
Shadow makes tons of sense as scum with both Rhand and Mind. And his "confirming" my role after pushing me is the sort of pocket plays he loves to make as scum.
At this point I realized I have almost no read on Cyan. I have a voice in my head saying he's town for the vote on AG, but I realize he's the one who put it there.
I think Shadow is the safest lynch today as each kill narrows the pool and others aren't as firm in their town block as I am. Not opposed to a Mind lynch at all, just think Shadow makes sense in more teams and I can see the parallels from this game to overwatch.
Uggh sorry all I've been busy and distracted by another game. Going to try and give my full attention here now because if I don't I'm going to be the game losing mislynch down the line as I fit in almost every team.
Scum team of Mind, Shadow, Typh, and X feels right to me. X is probably Rhand??? Not to sure on that.
Anyway I realize I'm going to be on the chopping block if not today then tomorrow and I'm going to try and step up. My motivation took a huge nose dive this game when Gruffin got modkilled tbh.
And Bad mod gaming for a second that I didn't want to touch but now am going to (Sorry Proph!) Gruffin asked to be replaced first but was modkilled while Typh slid into another slot. I don't know what to make of that other than it feels like there had to be a reason and the reason I keep landing on is the other slot was scum.
@Cantrip I was on the record at the start of the day that one of Cyan and Hunt should be the lynch today. I'm just pretty intrigued by everything going on with Mind and the not quite but almost dichotomy of KJ/Rhand.
I think I'd prefer a lynch on Mind, Shadow or Grape over Rhand right now. I really liked Rhand D1 and that's giving me pause on lynching him right now. His d2 play could easily be result of his IRL time crunches.
Cyan, remind me of your reasoning as to why I'm scum again?
That is quite the backtrack from someone who was driving the Rhand wagon. In your post 1105 the level of conviction you had persuaded a lot of people and now Rhand is the fourth person you want to lynch? You're going to have to walk me through your reasoning.
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Vote: Killjoy
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The various points about Mind not jumping onto Huntz wagon are strong. I still think it's more likely that Mind is just scum because of the low vanilla numbers given the claims we've had, but I'm also happy to pressure Rhand.
1331 has a few issues (like Rhand's point about the scum team being unlikely to push in unison) but overall strikes me as a town post. I'm also comfortable pushing Rhand because his push on me D1 didn't make sense at points. 536 had a few gross moments such as his response to my GJ wall.
Thanks for hosting Bur, it was a really fun game. GG town you guys played it well and apart from the random fast lynch on Cantrip did everything very deliberately and carefully. I was very impressed.
As for my play that game, first off thanks for the compliments it definitely wasn't the easiest slot to replace into. As for my play I decided to just try and get inside the town block by "clearing people" Anak for the flavor play, KJ because that would be OP as scum, Az for the bus, that sort of thing. It worked reasonably well till all the claims came in and really painted me into a corner. The Kpaca kill raised some eyebrows, but my reasoning was just to eliminate a near conf-town slot that had no hope of being protected. If I'd read the game better I think I could have landed on a better NK and actually done some PR hunting which might have given me a chance. Ahhh well, was probably dead no matter how I played it, but it was fun to try.
Also hope my post where I thought Cyan had lynched me didn't cross any bad sportsmanship lines. I sent it without thinking and then realized that it could be a bit distasteful. I was trying to just mimic the sort of post I make when I get mislynched, but that's not exactly kosher so I'll try not to do it again.
Wasn't I already at L-1? Pretty sure we're in twilight now.
Anyway when I flip town don't waste time worrying about DV, Cyan, or Az. After rereading KJ still feels town because that Burnout seems really powerful as scum. Anak either has been faking a flavor claim better than I've ever seen or Shadow's claim was thought out really well in advance. I can't decide which one of those three is most likely to be scum. Leaning towards KJ at the moment, but I don't have confidence in that read.
@Shadow okay then give me what strikes you as town for: KJ, Cantrip (since you should have better insight than most there), Mind, Cyan, and myself. Doesn't need to be long, just examples.
As for other conclusions from SJT's vote breakdown I don't agree with his conclusion on Fulcrum/Typh, but I see how he's getting there. I'm very curious to see his conclusions after cross checking those who don't look good via it with his reads. And can get back to this after the fact.
Ohh that last reply was for Mindreaver anyway. Not Cyan.
Anyway I'm definitely having increased suspicion of Shadow after RSJT's vote breakdown. Yeah he went out of his way to confirm my ability and locked himself into a targeted role, but he did that in Overwatch too. Not completely outside his scum range and he loves to pocket people...
I do love pocketing people, but that's not really a scum trait for me so much as a shadow trait. Overwatch was slightly different in that I tried to keep from claiming anything during day 2.
What other takeaways from Terry's big post do you have? What's your current read on Terry?
I'll give you my take on Terry for now: I think he's town and I have for most of the game. Before I get into other takeaways where are you standing on Terry and his post?
Gruffin: NeighborizerAG: VT
Bur: Desperado
GJ: VT
KJ: VT
Rod: Follower
Grape: 1 shot Cloaker
Rhand: VT
Hunt: Bulletproof
Mind: Vanilla cop
Shadow: Flavor Cop
Cyan: No claim? I thought there was a VT claim but couldn't find one in his ISO.
Cantrip: No claim
Quix: No claim
SJT: No claim
Typh: No claim
Mind/Rhand is a dichotomy. I don't think that's an aggro bus. Leaning heavily towards Mind as scum at this stage.
I think Typh is scum for angleshooty OoG reasons.
Shadow makes tons of sense as scum with both Rhand and Mind. And his "confirming" my role after pushing me is the sort of pocket plays he loves to make as scum.
At this point I realized I have almost no read on Cyan. I have a voice in my head saying he's town for the vote on AG, but I realize he's the one who put it there.
I think Shadow is the safest lynch today as each kill narrows the pool and others aren't as firm in their town block as I am. Not opposed to a Mind lynch at all, just think Shadow makes sense in more teams and I can see the parallels from this game to overwatch.
Anyway I realize I'm going to be on the chopping block if not today then tomorrow and I'm going to try and step up. My motivation took a huge nose dive this game when Gruffin got modkilled tbh.
And Bad mod gaming for a second that I didn't want to touch but now am going to (Sorry Proph!) Gruffin asked to be replaced first but was modkilled while Typh slid into another slot. I don't know what to make of that other than it feels like there had to be a reason and the reason I keep landing on is the other slot was scum.
I am definitely willing to vote mindreaver at this stage, just more interested in how KJ reacts to this.
That is quite the backtrack from someone who was driving the Rhand wagon. In your post 1105 the level of conviction you had persuaded a lot of people and now Rhand is the fourth person you want to lynch? You're going to have to walk me through your reasoning.
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Vote: Killjoy
P.S. votes not in color have a decent shot of being missed right now.
Vote: Rhand
The various points about Mind not jumping onto Huntz wagon are strong. I still think it's more likely that Mind is just scum because of the low vanilla numbers given the claims we've had, but I'm also happy to pressure Rhand.
1331 has a few issues (like Rhand's point about the scum team being unlikely to push in unison) but overall strikes me as a town post. I'm also comfortable pushing Rhand because his push on me D1 didn't make sense at points. 536 had a few gross moments such as his response to my GJ wall.
As for my play that game, first off thanks for the compliments it definitely wasn't the easiest slot to replace into. As for my play I decided to just try and get inside the town block by "clearing people" Anak for the flavor play, KJ because that would be OP as scum, Az for the bus, that sort of thing. It worked reasonably well till all the claims came in and really painted me into a corner. The Kpaca kill raised some eyebrows, but my reasoning was just to eliminate a near conf-town slot that had no hope of being protected. If I'd read the game better I think I could have landed on a better NK and actually done some PR hunting which might have given me a chance. Ahhh well, was probably dead no matter how I played it, but it was fun to try.
Also hope my post where I thought Cyan had lynched me didn't cross any bad sportsmanship lines. I sent it without thinking and then realized that it could be a bit distasteful. I was trying to just mimic the sort of post I make when I get mislynched, but that's not exactly kosher so I'll try not to do it again.
Anyway thanks for the game and well played town!
Anyway when I flip town don't waste time worrying about DV, Cyan, or Az. After rereading KJ still feels town because that Burnout seems really powerful as scum. Anak either has been faking a flavor claim better than I've ever seen or Shadow's claim was thought out really well in advance. I can't decide which one of those three is most likely to be scum. Leaning towards KJ at the moment, but I don't have confidence in that read.
As for other conclusions from SJT's vote breakdown I don't agree with his conclusion on Fulcrum/Typh, but I see how he's getting there. I'm very curious to see his conclusions after cross checking those who don't look good via it with his reads. And can get back to this after the fact.
I'll give you my take on Terry for now: I think he's town and I have for most of the game. Before I get into other takeaways where are you standing on Terry and his post?